Frater Cornelius Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Something I am missing with the current AdMech selection in 40k is a TDA-esque front-line unit. Aesthetically, I very much enjoy the Myrmidon Secutors and they fit this idea very well in my eyes. However, what possibility are there to field those models as counts-as (and other guns obviously) in 40k? Nothing too contrived. It still has to make tactical sense to include those models. Ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The closest thing in size and armament would be Kataphrons. You might be able to finagle them as Centurions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4061538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Non psychic Inquisitor. Unfortunately they are low tough but at least they have high wounds and you can equip them with a variety of stuff. Or Assassins? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4061594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Centurions fit the bill really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4061616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sort of though of Terminators myself. Maybe even Deathwing, if the coming Codex turns out fine ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4061694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodhrin Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Centurion Devastators work well as Myrmidon Destructors. The Assault variant is probably the most appropriate for Secutors, but frankly they're not very good unless you're willing to pump a huge block of points into a transport and character-based shenanigans. Kataphron Breachers might work, but again they're the lesser of the two options and for me it doesn't feel right for a Techpriest that's purpose-built their body as an engine of destruction to be WS/BS3. Maybe Grey Knight Paladins? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4061714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think I will use the Myrmidons for the Breachers. 3+ armour is pretty decent and they shoot as well as chop. I was planning two units of three with Heavy Arc Rifles. That would be two sets of Secutors of FW. They won't even be that much more expensive in terms of money. I think I will use the Myrmidons for the Breachers. 3+ armour is pretty decent and they shoot as well as chop. I was planning two units of three with Heavy Arc Rifles. That would be two sets of Secutors of FW. They won't even be that much more expensive in terms of money. Edit: Remember, I only want to use the models. They will not be Myrmidons in the fluff. This is a Knight House after all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4062629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Myrmidons are clearly marked as still in existence in 40k in the Skitarii Codex, so in time Forgeworld should give us official sanction to use them in a future Imperial Armour book. However Forgeworld might make 40k-era Myrmidons with different guns, so on that line we will have to wait, but we should get official Myrmidons at some point one way or the other.As far as counts-as though the Kataphrons seem reasonable to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4062665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/large/Myrmadon-destructors1.jpg Looks like a Plasma Cannon Destroyer to me ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4063318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scurvydog Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I love those models, do they use the same base as kataphrons? In the fluff the combat servitors come in nearly all shapes, so it would fit well enough, as long as the base size is equal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4063458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Myrmidons come on 40mm base but they are bigger than the 30k TDA in every way. Sticking them into a 60mm base with some base decoration will not be much of a strentch. Too bad they come with 1 weapon each, so I would need to build the Grav Cannons myself. Still, they fit the image of heavy armoured knights for my Knight House. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4063462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scurvydog Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I am really considering getting these now to use as count as destroyers and the melee versions for breachers. In my gaming group nobody forces wysiwyg especially if it is in relation to a cool themed model or conversion. They are not that expensive even and buying the offer with 9 is actually cheaper than kataphrons, and 60mm based can be found cheap in ebay or the like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4063862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 I had a look at FW weapons, and I think fitting out Myrmidon Destructors with Legion Volkite Culverin makes for pretty decent Grav Destroyers. Any other weapon alternative, possibly in 40k? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4064984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Just FYI I'm really digging this idea and might adopt them myself, so thanks for the suggestion. All your information as well, like how it's a little too big for its intended base, are great points which convinced me. I'm thinking of using these models for both Kataphron Breachers and Destroyers. Breachers (3+ saves) will have the shoulder pads, Destroyers (4+ saves) won't. I won't attach the Dr. Octopus arms, then each of the arm types reflect different weapons, as suggested. The non-Heavy Weapon arms will be Arc Claws for Breachers, then converted into Phosphor Blasters for others (and I'm going to have to get like Japanese model kits, plentiful in my area, for bitz on that or something). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4066658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scurvydog Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I like the varied look of the weapons and models, it should be pretty easy to know what is what, I bring different loadouts on all my squads all the time regardless of how they are modelled, which is encouraged where I play to have more fun without spending a fortune in "reserve" models. There are myrmidon secutors as well with shoulder guns and axes, I am thinking they could be cool for "count as" breachers while the others will be nice destroyers. Hard to come up with alternative weapons if adamant on wysiwyg loadout on models, the size and weapon types are rather unique. The arms holding the weapons are rather easy to deal with though, just a high sitting ball joint, easily made to a surface sticking anything to it. Possibly some bits along with something like the leman russ executioner plasma cannon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4066671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 If you are planning to run Destroyers, I can recommend Legion Heavy Weapon sets for conversions. Myself, I am planning to use Volkite Culverins as Grav Cannons, should I go ahead with the plan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308328-myrmidons-in-40k/#findComment-4066679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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