Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 OK, so several times I've heard of an apoc formation that's a PCS and two heavy weapons squads. I cannot seem to find this anywhere. Is this actually a thing, because if it is, I'll do that for my heavy weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 i believe you're refering to the imperial sword heavy weapon company, which consists of 1 company command squad and 10+ heavy weapon squads... the lowest model count normal infantry formation is the catachan ambush patrol (1 infantry platoon, 1-3 veteran squads), followed up by the imperial shield company( 1 company command sqd, 3 infantry platoons) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 It's possible, I'm asking about it the way I heard it, so maybe the person that mentioned it was wrong. I appreciate the info, and I think that's too much to try and field in my small force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morroccomole Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I've read something similar, Ulrik. I tried to google it, but nothing showed up. But for what it's worth, the guy at the GW store in my area said that unbound lists are for doing what you want. Even though HWS' are part of a different troops choice, as long as you pay the points for them, you can field them in an unbound list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yeah, the problem is, you can't do that, because even in an unboud list, you'd still have to take the whole platoon, because you can't purchase HWS separately from the platoon structure. Also, unbound negates the command benefits of your other detachments, so all of that wonderful objective secured would go away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Ulrik speaks truth...buying just a heavy weapons squad is like buying just a space marine with a plasma cannon without buying the tactical squad he comes with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morroccomole Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I understand the codex, I'm just parroting what the GW employee said. In the end it's up to your conscience and your opponent's discretion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Then the GW employee doesn't understand it. Unbound doesn't supersede codex build rules. That's my stance on it. I didn't mean to imply that you didn't know the codex, just to say that that's not allowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I've double checked and the entry is a command squad and 10+ HWT's. It's not a normal formation instead it's an Apoc Formation. The old guard codex had HWS's which were command squad and a certain number of HWT's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 krieg lists still get heavy weapon platoons though if i recall correctly. you may wish to check those out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4064964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'll check that out. Thanks guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308457-imperial-guard-formations/#findComment-4065480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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