Nomus Sardauk Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I doubt the amount of Phosphex in the shells is enough to warrant concern for things like friendly fire or environmental taint, it's probably akin to Hellfire Bolts on steroids, turning dudes into walking, shrieking jack'o'lanterns as they burn from the inside out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 I doubt the amount of Phosphex in the shells is enough to warrant concern for things like friendly fire or environmental taint, it's probably akin to Hellfire Bolts on steroids, turning dudes into walking, shrieking jack'o'lanterns as they burn from the inside out. This. These were the rules I wrote for it. The Peacemaker This massive side arm fires rounds that ignite targets with the burning death of Phosphex. Rng:18 Strgth:5 AP:2 Assault:1 Burning Death, Poisoned 3+ Burning Death: Each successful To Hit Roll made with this weapon yields three hits against the target unit instead of one. Units hit by this weapon have their cover save reduced by 1 until the end of the phase. Units charging a unit hit by this weapon may reroll charge distances until the end of the turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) As for the Mavashelak(sp?) I am firmly in the camp of rules<fluff. Make them cool and we will hammer out effective rules sometime later. The FK are in book 4 I think so we got some time. Edited August 20, 2016 by Demus Ragnok Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Book 4?? We.only have 3 books or did we add one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 No we're still at 3 (to my knowledge) and the Fire Keepers are in the last one (again AFAIK). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Okay, Both Wardens Legions are in the last book as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 As for the Mavashelak(sp?) I am firmly in the camp of rules<fluff. Make them cool and we will hammer out effective rules sometime later. The FK are in book 4 I think so we got some time. OK. So, do we want them to be anti-infantry with just a couple of guys rocking meltas and missile launchers to crack open vehicles and barricades? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 As for the Mavashelak(sp?) I am firmly in the camp of rules<fluff. Make them cool and we will hammer out effective rules sometime later. The FK are in book 4 I think so we got some time. OK. So, do we want them to be anti-infantry with just a couple of guys rocking meltas and missile launchers to crack open vehicles and barricades? That works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 And the signature weapon for Eshyad? Thinking a multi-melta with some tweaks courtesy of Niklaas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 And the signature weapon for Eshyad? Thinking a multi-melta with some tweaks courtesy of Niklaas Totally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Take two, folks: +++++ While most of the Legions prized their elite assault companies, Niklaas preferred to use firepower to carry the day in escalades. To this end the Maveshalak were developed from the Legion's heavy weapons specialists. Typically deployed in the storming of an enemy fortress, they tend more towards anti-infantry roles than most heavy support units, wielding assault cannons, heavy flamers and volkite culverins. A handful carry melta and missile weapons to destroy any tanks and barricades that might bar their way. The power of the Maveshalak is amplified further by the improvements that Niklaas has made to their arsenal, and they are led by Gideon Eshedath, the “Flame Hand”. Eshedath was a follower of Niklaas on Obsailes, and won widespread acclaim for his tactical acumen in the Medusan Compliance. His chosen weapon is one of Niklaas’ masterpieces, a custom-made multi-melta which has been known to melt even stone. Demus Ragnok 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4473856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) So the majority of each squad will be armed primarily for obliterating infantry, with a couple of guys equipped to crack open tanks and barriers. Maybe one guy with a melee weapon, or they could just run in tandem with an assault squad. What rules would suit them? Edited August 23, 2016 by bluntblade Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4475845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 Did we ever get Niklaas' views on Magnus, except that he's sad about the whole Death of Prospero thing? So I've had a think on this. Niklaas is less repulsed by the psy craft of Icarion and Alexandros due to their being diviners. A more internal passive action. Where as Magnus delved deeply into all aspects of warp craft. This overt use of warp power by Magnus would draw a cold curtain between him and Niklaas. There would be no formal protest or complaining but Niklaas would just flat avoid Magnus and his legion at all costs. bluntblade and simison 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4498614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Just wanted to drop this note here. There are more than twelve tribes on Obsailes. Those that are named among the legion were loyal to Niklaas during the Witch War. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4506074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 What are your thoughts on rules for the Maveshalak? Also if you've got any exemplary battles that need doing, I'm happy to help out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4511849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) I've been meaning to put some trial rules up in the Rules thread for discussion. Had surgery today and will be in bed for the next couple days so I should have time to put some together. Battles. If you could do something for Jehu earning his Wave Blade that'd be great. Fluff blurb from Jehu's rules: These blades are the work of artificers on the Scion Hospitalier home world of Iona. Jehu received the blade he bears as tribute after leading a campaign alongside a Hospitalier force against Orks in the Oxican Gulf. I have a draft started for the first compliance the FK fought after Nik took over. I need a third but I haven't had an idea that tickles my fancy. Edited September 23, 2016 by Demus Ragnok Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4511960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 That might offer a chance to highlight another bit of the Scions' methods too. I think I might include Niklaas making heavy use of airpower; I got the idea because someone on here noted that there's little of that overall in 30/40K Demus Ragnok 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4511964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Given what I've written myself, it'd make sense for the Scions to be quite a small detachment (up to 10,000) led by Captain Galen. Do you have an enemy in mind? Edit: House Toho might be coming to play Edited September 23, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4511970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Orks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4511983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Sweet. Now to think about context. To my knowledge we've had one very tech-heavy WAAAAGH! whom the Bears fought in defence of Aureus. Maybe this could be an attack on an Ork-held orbital or stronghold? I'm picturing the Maveshalak being used in conjunction with the Triakonta, pinning down pockets of greenskins and wiping them out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4511986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 I like the idea of ork held orbital. Maybe give a glimpse of how FK conduct void ops. The Maves and the Tria are a natural hammer and anvil. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4511989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) How do you picture them conducting said void ops? I'm feeling Deathskulls for this Edited September 23, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4511994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Oh...House Toho? Would be cool. ^^ Let me know if you need anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4512006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 How viable are Knights on an orbital? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4512008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) How viable are Knights on an orbital? If they fall off, they're going to have a rough time with re-entry and/or being helpless in the vacuum of space. Edited September 23, 2016 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/309945-il-x-the-fire-keepers/page/7/#findComment-4512010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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