foamy248 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Anyone willing to donate some soldiers to a blackshields war band? I'd prefer if I could develop them, but if anyone has any poor, orphaned outcasts I'd be willing to look after them and giving 'em a loving home with food, shelter and the blood/slaughter of the enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) How about a warden if light who survived the onslaught of traviers treason on the day of revelation but didn't make it back to caerbannog for some reasons you have yet to find and who is not the pacifist he should be. (as reaction to the treason, an old terran maybe or a disillusioned caerbannogi) Edited December 27, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Perfect! Member uno sorted, then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Speaking of Godslayers...http://i.imgur.com/tvAOOs1.jpg Edit: Also, I guess now would be a good time to post the unfinished concept sketch I had of Koschei that I forgot about. Check the Godslayers thread... Oh my it's a good day for the godslayers! Sigismund229 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 And also a good day for the Warbringers... Â http://i.imgur.com/EBXR0Sj.jpg Sigismund229, Raktra, Kelborn and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 I know this project has been going for a while, but is there still space to join? All good (and completely understandable) if it isn't, but the Icarion Insurrection looks, tbh, goddamn awesome and I'd love to contribute. Additionally, I can do pretty decent artwork if you needed it.  Welcome aboard, foamy! The project is always in need of artists. I look forward to seeing your work and am encouraged by the preview of Mortera you've already done.  For your custom space marine force, is there a particular kind of marine you're looking for? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Also, a quite important point r/e Book 1 (just been flicking through). Is everyone aware that all modifiers to Strength etc from Wargear AND Special Rules go in order of multipliers, THEN additions? For example, the Ironbound slayer clan's Warclaws would be S9 rather than S10. Also to note, Forgeworld says in the wargear and special rules sections for units whether or not modifications to a statline have been included in their profile, something I notice was lacking in Book 1 and I think it's something we should endevour to keep in our Insurrection works for the sake of clarity and consistency. For example, going back to the Ironbound again, one could easily argue that their actual statline would be S6 T6 W3 I3 A3, which would put them on the level with Vorax automata (more so thanks to better saves) and would make the unit SEVERELY undercosted  Thanks for the heads up. I'll try to go through the units and add appropriate notations. If anyone spots anything else please do point it out as it all goes towards making the finished product that much better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016  Also, a quite important point r/e Book 1 (just been flicking through). Is everyone aware that all modifiers to Strength etc from Wargear AND Special Rules go in order of multipliers, THEN additions? For example, the Ironbound slayer clan's Warclaws would be S9 rather than S10. Also to note, Forgeworld says in the wargear and special rules sections for units whether or not modifications to a statline have been included in their profile, something I notice was lacking in Book 1 and I think it's something we should endevour to keep in our Insurrection works for the sake of clarity and consistency. For example, going back to the Ironbound again, one could easily argue that their actual statline would be S6 T6 W3 I3 A3, which would put them on the level with Vorax automata (more so thanks to better saves) and would make the unit SEVERELY undercosted  Thanks for the heads up. I'll try to go through the units and add appropriate notations. If anyone spots anything else please do point it out as it all goes towards making the finished product that much better.  Not a problem. Also one thing to note, the Initiative of the Ironbound unit appears to have been left unchanged, when it appears it should have been lowered by their Ironbound Hide? Is this an oversight or was it intentional? If it was intentional I personally think that should be altered given that their sergeant would, theoretically, have 6 Initiative without the Hide Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 How about a warden if light who survived the onslaught of traviers treason on the day of revelation but didn't make it back to caerbannog for some reasons you have yet to find and who is not the pacifist he should be. (as reaction to the treason, an old terran maybe or a disillusioned caerbannogi)Yeah that would be great. I'll develop that idea a bit more later today. Â Â For your custom space marine force, is there a particular kind of marine you're looking for? I've got an idea (it may be too left-field), where a aspirant had successfully completed the tests and trials to become a fully-fledged space marine. However, the transformation process fails and the soldier is left stunted and slightly mutated. Unable to serve as a combat marine, the soldier works in the legion's armory and helps the legion's techmarines. In some way or another (depending on the legion he will end up coming from) he is forced to flee, and ends up joining a crew of black shields. At that point, I've got SO many ideas for him. MikhalLeNoir 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Sounds like a really easy idea to implement. The gene-seed implantation process can be a notoriously fickle process. Any legion could suit that purpose, though the Scions are noted for having the most stable process. If you were using a Halcyon Warden, he could become separated from the legion during the Day of Revelation and join a Blackshield force just to survive. foamy248 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 That's a pretty decent idea. I was thinking along the lines of (and this is were it gets a bit... interesting) him designing and manufacturing a large battle-automata (maybe similar to a robot from the Iron Circle?), and essentially using it as compensation for his stunted growth and fighting ability. He could possibly go full rocket raccoon/groot, thanquol/boneripper with it, but the rules and model for it could be interesting. Sound feasible? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Yeah, that sounds feasible. The marine might have been an assistant to a techmarine where he gains his technical expertise. foamy248 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Yeah, I think that's the best option. So, I'll make him a WoL? Or are there any other legions that would work as well (for having lots of space marines fleeing, etc)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Every legion suffers some kind of break away during the Insurrection. The only difference is the degree. The Harbingers suffer it the least, while I think the Dune Serpents are split almost down the middle.  So, any legion will work. foamy248 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Just smashed up my tablet :( have a nasty feeling I might've lost most of my current documents. Gonna be a couple days before I can replace it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 The Void Eagles are possibly the second likeliest source of blackshields from the loyalist side, and 4th and 5th fleets are heavy in mad techmarines. foamy248 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 Just smashed up my tablet have a nasty feeling I might've lost most of my current documents. Gonna be a couple days before I can replace it  Good gravy, man! You don't seem to have any luck these days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) The Void Eagles are possibly the second likeliest source of blackshields from the loyalist side, and 4th and 5th fleets are heavy in mad techmarines. What event would a Void Eagle flee from? Edited December 28, 2016 by foamy248 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Foamy if you want a few Iron Bears for your blackshields feel free to have a handful. Â @Talonair; the Initiative stat of the Ironbound Chief Centurion isn't a mistake, it was a choice of fluff in rules, the Ironbound wargear option is representing a Bear whom has had extensive augmentation and cybernetics, but the true Ironbound; the Ironbound Slayers are barely Astartes anymore, they are more akin to a brother in a Dreadnought than not. many often lack bones, skin, major organs, etcetera. So where as the upgrade slows the normal bearer because of organic integration, the Ironbound Slayers don't have that issue. I hope that clears that up. foamy248 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Hey Skalpy, not sure if you saw, but I've added the Warbringers scheme a little bit further up in this thread! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Foamy if you want a few Iron Bears for your blackshields feel free to have a handful. Yay! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Ashes and dust: Â http://i.imgur.com/Xhv1rY2.jpg Grifftofer, Sigismund229, bluntblade and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) If some Predator Blackshields are needed, I can find some for ya. ;) Edited December 28, 2016 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 @Talonair; the Initiative stat of the Ironbound Chief Centurion isn't a mistake, it was a choice of fluff in rules, the Ironbound wargear option is representing a Bear whom has had extensive augmentation and cybernetics, but the true Ironbound; the Ironbound Slayers are barely Astartes anymore, they are more akin to a brother in a Dreadnought than not. many often lack bones, skin, major organs, etcetera. So where as the upgrade slows the normal bearer because of organic integration, the Ironbound Slayers don't have that issue. I hope that clears that up. Got it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4604923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Â Â Just smashed up my tablet have a nasty feeling I might've lost most of my current documents. Gonna be a couple days before I can replace it Good gravy, man! You don't seem to have any luck these days. Hopefully it's just a temporary setback (got electronics covered on my travel insurance) but I expect to be quiet until the 5th at least Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/208/#findComment-4605488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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