Big Bad Squig Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Alexos is a psyker and a gene-scientist, he likes to fiddle with your genes and create a super-human monster out of you Aaand Kozja's not above trying to mix gene-seed strains in an attempt to get the best of each, with the goal to create to create the supreme legion, and uses the recipe for Thunder Warriors on his auxilia. Now, with that in mind, I have several ideas. One would be a Nikaea-style moratorium on geneseed tampering. With the concerned legion disregarding it as much as the psyker-heavy legions did Nikaea. Another, experiments getting systematically awry. Aaaaaand I have a certain Primus Medicae who dabbles (to put it lightly) in genetic modification, triggering the geneseed flaw in my XI Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I like the "genetic Nicea" idea. If we go down that parallel route. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Instead of Psychic Shenanigans we have peeps who just looooove to mess around with the Human Genetic Template? I can see Big E getting Uppity about it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 "Mate, what if we had twelve penises?" - unknown Primus Medicae, M.31, legion records deleted Big Bad Squig, Fenbain, depthcharge12 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 "Mate, what if we had twelve penises?" - unknown Primus Medicae, M.31, legion records deleted http://media.giphy.com/media/TbRXNJJJbgIkE/giphy.gif All I can say is thank you Hesh Kadesh and Raktra 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 "Mate, what if we had twelve penises?" - unknown Primus Medicae, M.31, legion records deleted "THINK OF THE AMOUNT OF STUFF YOU COULD GET DONE WITH 6 ARMS DUDE!?!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) *dies of laughter* But yeah, Alexos also creates semi-astartes at some point. they are exact clones, but very unreliable and kinda dumb, also very prone to mutations Edited August 7, 2015 by AlphariusOmegon108 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 Genetic tampering will be a huge issue in this universe. Big Bad Squig 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Kind of rolls well into the drowned. I'd be on the side of the genetic mutator; something I've noted is that there is literal no talk of naval (aquatic) battles. The Drowned's fluff originally had them as the "Dive Coteries", originating from Sub Goreo-Cathay Sinkholes (the last sources of natural standing water on Terra), and recruited into the Legiones Astartes initially as high pressure and 3 dimensional combat experts, operating many flying craft and the specialised equipment for fighting in high pressure 3 dimensional locations. They are notable for use in campaigns based on solid ground in use of Termites, Dragon-Nymph's Mole Mortars, and other subterranean assaults, excelling at siege assaults. With the nature of their combat, they have a particular association with less solid ammunition, and prefer laser and volkite weaponry, as well as that of melee weapons. Their Primarch, "Sorrowsworn Morro" himself latched onto the idea quickly; his belief in the Genetic Tampering to not only advance the ability of his soldiers into becoming better at fighting in such locations (going to far as to specifically capture the Fleshsmiths of the Eldar), by the time of the Heresy going so far as to suggest that they could recreate the Emperor himself. I see him either as the Lorgar (if that's okay with everyone), bringing Chaos to the Imperium in that manner, or as the Magnus (attempting to harness the power of the genesmithing, but delving so far as to risk chaos influence. For punishment, if there is a Space Wolves analogue, then I'd see him go to the Emperor for punishment; but learning along the way (as a result of Chaos) that his goal is to become some fuel for the Golden Throne; his regenerative abilities gained as a result of the flesh-smiths workings making him able to act as the "bulb" or "filament" in the beacon that will heal any damage, although not a Psyker, the nature of the Primarch's creation letting him act as the locus for all the power, focusing it into a beam which will be shone through the lens that is the throne. Seeing his "true" fate, and the nature of the Emperor, and visions of the 41st millenium (as it stands with neverending war), The Sorrowsworn gives himself to Chaos, and is returned to his Legion, joining the "rebels/traitors". needs work, of course. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'm down with the 'serkers getting poked with hypodermic needles for the hell of it. Half of my characters already wear movie Bane masks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'm absolutely in favor of a genetic Nikaea. Hell Daer'dd would find genetic modification on Astartes an abomination and cause for censor. He believes the greatest gift Astartes and Primarchs received is the Emperor's "blood". Why tamper with perfection? AlphariusOmegon108 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I think the idea of a genetic Nikae is pretty good. Hectarion would be strongly against tampering with the gene seed on the grounds that the tampering with gene seed is an abomination in his view and shouldn't be allowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'm absolutely in favor of a genetic Nikaea. Hell Daer'dd would find genetic modification on Astartes an abomination and cause for censor. He believes the greatest gift Astartes and Primarchs received is the Emperor's "blood". Why tamper with perfection? Because its perfection has been broken in twenty shards, an oversight the Emperor left to his sons to fix by creating the One True Legion. Such would be Kozja's main defense at [Nikaea-equivalent] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Btw, shouldn't we also decide roughly how large our legions are? Because their size will help determine how much of a role they play in the inevitable heresy and also whether they're targeted by something like Calth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 Alright, I've finally finished the Loyalist/Traitor list. Each Primarch now has 5 traits next to their name. (Also, Athrawes, for all of the work you've done, you've written surprisingly little on Icarion. I went through your entire thread looking for POV writing before I gave up.) Nature 2 Combat/Legion specialties Dominant personality trait Views on Xenos The last one was a dud. I thought I saw some variation and that it could influence major events. Nope. Next up is the foundation of the timeline: primarch discovery and who the Emperor chooses as Warmaster. This is going to be interesting because there's going to have to be a balance between what the story needs and what we want. I have a system devised for the Warmaster at least. Each frater gets to nominate 3 Primarchs for the post. The Emperor will give bonus votes and will veto certain candidates. Just remember Horus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 my primarch is not anti-xeno at alllll ;) he implements ork and eldar genes into semi-astartes in his legion at some point Btw, whos gonna be the arch traitor and the arch loyalist? I dont wanna sound... ego-centric.. But my primarch would love to be a canidate for arch traitor.. just saying... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Looking good, and I like that idea for a system. Just a couple of points: Koschei is firmly pro-xenos and Azus' 'bipolar sanity' is not always present, only after genetic meddling. I'll read up on all the Primarchs again before I make my votes for Warmaster Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Mmhm. Where should I stick my Ghost Walkers? They're Native American influenced Astartes recon teams. Hierarchy tends to gravitate towards Dreadnought Ancients and "Medicine Men" - latent biological psykers who perform the apothecary tasks of the legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'm aware, and Alexos will play a pivotal role for Chaos. I don't know if he will be the Arch-Traitor, but if he isn't I can easily see him being the Favorite of Chaos Undivided. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praefectus Invictus Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) I'll chuck in my vote, Either Alexandros, Icarion or Raktra. These are the first three lost legion primarchs I viewed, and are part of what made me start my own lost legion thread. Also, Raktra would be a different approach to how the Warmaster would be expected to act, using ferocity instead of reason. Could lead to some interesting confrontations between the legions... Also Jackel does love his opportunistic strikes, using speed, ingenuity and the terrain around him to wear down the enemies morale and tear the throat from their command chain Edited August 7, 2015 by Praefectus Invictus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 You're breaking my heart, depth! We have a full roster as it is, even though I'd be honored to have your legion here. I suppose you can ask if anyone is willing to bow out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I nominate Alex as head of the traitors, if he's swinging that way. I imagine he'd be a different kind of leader - regretful about the division, rather than relishing in it. Needs must, and all that. Like Ozymandias in Watchmen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) Well, Gwalchavad was a Muggle, but he lost cut off the ties of the warp and became a pariah^^ For the combat, heavy range is okay, but he is close combat as well. specialty boom with his guns, and smash with his fists (tonfas^^) If combat is inevietable. What abaout the 3 fraction thing. would love to be on the side of the rebells who are neither for the emperor or chaos Edited August 7, 2015 by MikhalLeNoir AlphariusOmegon108 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) You're breaking my heart, depth! We have a full roster as it is, even though I'd be honored to have your legion here. I suppose you can ask if anyone is willing to bow out. Unless... he became one of the lost legions. That way the ghost walkers can still take part in this madness. Just a thought. EDIT: Second the three factions Edited August 7, 2015 by Big Bad Squig Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Simison the Fire Keepers are a weird mix of Iron Warriors, Salamders and Raven Guard. They are adept at seige craft/ combat engineering as well as stealth/ night operations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/311978-general-discussion/page/3/#findComment-4140874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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