bluntblade Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Might be more practical to take the landmass first. It's less than ideal to have all your options of resupply and such offworld. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4704590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 When does the Imperium encounter the Quarith? I'm asking to be sure if the XXth are already Predators or are still Arcane Blades. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4713608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The quarith triumph is our ulanor. So very late in the great crusade. Right afterwards icarion is denied the position of warmaster and alexandros is given the title instead causing an erruption amongst the ranks of the astartes. The emperor returns then to terra to follow his webway project. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4713660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 That's clear but in which year? Late crusade would mean that they already are Predators, so everything's fine. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4713684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The year is i k 31.000??? Not sure about this. Bit they are already predators. That is for sure Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4713778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 It may be right on the dot of M31. Not sure, I think I saved it in the Reference thread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4713779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I think it finishes in 998/9 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4713957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Guys, just how big should the War be? The Macharius Crusade lasts about the same time and takes hundreds of worlds, but I can't find numbers for the soldiers involved Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4908711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Very big. It should be the ultimate threat. Maybee en as dangerous as the rangdan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4909558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Guys, just how big should the War be? The Macharius Crusade lasts about the same time and takes hundreds of worlds, but I can't find numbers for the soldiers involved We're talking about a war to rival an entire Ork empire. I'd estimate at least 8 star systems, and enough resistance to require 4 Legions and the Custodians. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4909608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Ullanor was dozens, which makes 8 million mortal men seem woefuly insufficient (until you remember Horus killed the warlord within a year of the campaign beginning). We have a lot more Legions involved and it takes place over several years, so I'm looking as much to the Macharius Crusade for guidance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4909632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 We don't have any concrete figures for the numbers of men involved in the Macharian Crusade. We know some of the regiments that were and we know that there were 7-8 army groups(depending on if you go with the GW fluff or BL fluff). But we have no clue about the numbers of troops Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4909907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I'm leaning towards double figure millions for this, anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4909951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Given that the bulk of the fighting will be done by the legions, with the Imperial Army playing a supporting role more than a frontline one, I think the numbers shouldn't exceed about 100 million. We can save the truly enormous Imperial Army/Guard campaigns for after the legions have been split up into Orders. And just to point out, those 8 million mortals who were at the triumph weren't the only mortal troops present. It's stated that they were handpicked as the best of the mortal troops, meaning that the total number of Imperial Army troopers deployed could be in the high tens of millions I reckon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4909975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Well there you go. It's openly stated that most campaigns in the Crusade never saw an Astartes though, so I think it's still valid for the Army to figure heavily here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4910152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Consider. The Qarith are a very different enemy from orks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4910362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 There isn't the option of a decapitation strike, for one thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-4910386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Dusting this off. Firstly, I forgot the Dune Serpents were involved, did we ever establish to what extent? Second, how much are we involving the Steel Legion? Third, I like the idea of Hectarion staving off disaster in the first year at high cost, joined by the Predators who launch shock attacks against Qarith armies and worlds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-5178177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I seconded that idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-5178400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I imagine for the first half of the war the Steel Legion would mainly focus on defence, holding the line and beefing up the defences of worlds in the Qarith's path while the rest of the Imperium mobilises, leaving more aggressive Legions like the Lions and Preds to handle the counterattack. Once the Imperial war machine gets rolling and the Quarith are put on the defensive the SL would begin joining the attack, hunting Quarith fleets and aiding their fellows in cracking open the Quarith's strongholds planetside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-5178548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Dusting this off. Firstly, I forgot the Dune Serpents were involved, did we ever establish to what extent? Second, how much are we involving the Steel Legion? Third, I like the idea of Hectarion staving off disaster in the first year at high cost, joined by the Predators who launch shock attacks against Qarith armies and worlds. I think some flanking maneuver and special operations. I doubt there's much more detail than that. I believe San answered that. Works for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-5178607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I imagine for the first half of the war the Steel Legion would mainly focus on defence, holding the line and beefing up the defences of worlds in the Qarith's path while the rest of the Imperium mobilises, leaving more aggressive Legions like the Lions and Preds to handle the counterattack. Once the Imperial war machine gets rolling and the Quarith are put on the defensive the SL would begin joining the attack, hunting Quarith fleets and aiding their fellows in cracking open the Quarith's strongholds planetside. OK, but how much of the Legion is involved? Is Nomus in play? I'm also inclined to tidy away some canon regiments and Titan Legions at this stage. Gonna have to check which ones we're using in the Insurrection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-5178862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Did anyone come up with Qarith variants nd weapons which weren't already posted? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-5331925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Just updating the list of Primarchs on Qarith Prime Icarion Alexandros Pionus Hectarion Daer'dd Morro Nomus Andezo Azus (was he involved in the Qarith Crusade originally?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312238-event-the-qarith-triumph/page/6/#findComment-5340240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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