Demus Ragnok Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Yo, the more defensive approach would make sense.For what. Edited September 29, 2016 by Demus Ragnok Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) I see the fire keepers as siege masters and the leaders of the terran defenses. And as highly skilled in crafting. So better armor and master crafted weapons seem to fit to them as grifft suggested. But corrwct me if I am wrong and they are not. Edited September 29, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Ok. TO THE BAT CAVE!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 But....I am...not Robin... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 No u are not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Phew. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Ok. TO THE BAT CAVE!!! Another thing that would fit them pretty well would be the Wrecker rule to show their siege warfare ability. It might even be something to work into Niklaas's Sire or the Legiones Astartes rule (if it isn't already, it's been a while since I looked through the Fire Keepers rules in detail). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 But....I am...not Robin... Nope, you're Alfred. ;) :D Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Nightwing!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 At least we know who Sangi is... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) At least we know who Sangi is...Damn right. ;) I am the destroyer of fun, the ruiner of happiness, I am... The Deadpan Snarker. Edited September 29, 2016 by SanguiniusReborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I was gonna say the Joker Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Nahh. Mad hatter fits better Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4515983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) I was gonna say the JokerOooo... Nahh. Mad hatter fits betterTake it back before I turn you into Red Hood, tragic origin story and all. *pulls out a crowbar and brandishes it menacingly* :lol: Edited September 30, 2016 by SanguiniusReborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4516038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Hey, you started it. Okay alfred has style. So okay. Then... Max schreck for you¡¡¡¡ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4516097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Hey, you started it. Okay alfred has style. So okay. Then... Max schreck for you¡¡¡¡ Okay, I admit I had to look up who that was, but, if you're going to make me Christopher Walken then there's something you've haven't considered. For you see... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4E15zNalCJY/VOn5woodjgI/AAAAAAAADLA/JZlTT8TQF-4/s1600/Gen%2BWalken.jpg Kelborn and simison 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4516489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Yeeeeeeeeeesss? Hey. Yonder are a dragon Force mate and get the coolest actors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4516593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Would a RoW granting rending to melee attacks be too much? I have ideas-a-rumblin'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4517215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 If your beserkers would throw away all range combat weapons and must by grinders, why not ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4517218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Would a RoW granting rending to melee attacks be too much? I have ideas-a-rumblin'. It could be viable. It would obviously depend on what else came with it (advantages and disadvantages). I'm sure we'd all be happy to look through the ideas once they're more fully formed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4517296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I'll do a full mockup tonight, it's gonna focus on the daemonic side of the legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4517474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Ok. TO THE BAT CAVE!!! Another thing that would fit them pretty well would be the Wrecker rule to show their siege warfare ability. It might even be something to work into Niklaas's Sire or the Legiones Astartes rule (if it isn't already, it's been a while since I looked through the Fire Keepers rules in detail). This is the thing I have been most frustrated by. Trying to fluff/crunch a siege Legion without them becoming Iron Warriors lite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4517521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 How do your Legion rules stand at the moment? (And Niklaas's Sire rule if you have it to hand) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4517526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 CRUSADE ARMY LIST APPENDIX THE FIRE KEEPERS Legion Astartes Fire Keepers Legion Astartes: Units with this rule may always attempt to regroup regardless of casualties. Like a Storm: LA:FK units that are within 7 inches of an eligible target may charge automatically, they need not roll for charge distance. Charge distances greater than 7 inches must be rolled for as normal. Units that make a successful charge greater than 7 inches gain the Hammer of Wrath special rule. Units that already have HoW gain no benefit. Units making a disordered charge gain none of the above benefits. Face any Foe: All units with LA:FK must reroll one d6 on all failed fear, morale, and penning tests. Suffer not the Witch: A LA:FK detachment may not include a librarian consul as an HQ choice. Furthermore a LA:FK detachment that is allied to a detachment that includes a librarian/ psyker must take a chaplain consul as its HQ selection. Boots on the Ground: A LA:FK detachment may not include more units of the jump infantry, bike, or jet bike type than units of the infantry type. Given this restriction some Rites of War are not available to a LA:FK army. Sire of the Fire Keepers Niklaas has the Monster Hunter special rule. All Fire Keepers units gain the Stubborn special rule while Niklaas is on the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4517527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Looking at it the Sire rule may be a bit redundant given the morale reroll the LA rules include. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/312431-rules-primarch-and-legion/page/26/#findComment-4517531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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