GrandMagnus Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hi, I was just wondering if someone has used the Cadian hostile environment upgrade and the Cadian respirator upgrade from Forge World and what their opinions are. I would like to get one of the two for my guardsmen because I like the closed helmet but I'm not really sure which is best. The price diference is 1 pound, so which gives more bang for the bug? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audemus Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I'm actually converting all of my guardsmen into Hostile Environment units due to my regiments fluff and I would say it's a grab bag. Some things don't tend to make sense, like the Vox operator really doesn't look like one, and I think that FW got carried away with the backpacks on the conversion pieces but since they are part of the body you're kind of stuck with them. Here's some pictures of the guys I'm working on, literally just finished some of the guys in the picture this afternoon, and a 360 degree of the first 5 that I did so you can get a better feel for the models. Let me know if you have any questions! Currently Completed Hostile Environment Troops http://i.imgur.com/bKmelhT.png 360 Degree View of Hostile Environment Conversion http://i.imgur.com/lijwr0f.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4177829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I've used the respirator set, it's very good. The different is that it's just bits like the heads and other extras so you can use them as you like. The hazardous equipment set is torsos as well so you get "less" but a distinctive appearance that's quite cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4178028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 They look great Audemus. Is there a vox-operater in the kit? I had not seen that in the forgeworld pictures. What I'm worried about is wether they will all look the same with the hostile environment kit, since the heads and torsos are all stuck together. My main problem with the respirator upgrade is the sergeants head, the one with the hat and rebreather. I would rather have an entire squad with helmets. So, thanks for the replies, I think I will be going for the hostile environment kit. The holstered lasgun and other such cool upgrades from the respirator kit I guess can find on ebay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4178034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emprah2508 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not to jack the thread but would they work with scion parts to make more kasrkin looking models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4178291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not to jack the thread but would they work with scion parts to make more kasrkin looking models? Well, you can combine scion legs with regular guard torsos so that would not be a problem. But you wouldn't be able to give them the scions hotshot las-guns due to the respirator backpack, unless you convert them a bit and remove the cables and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4178314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emprah2508 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cheers ill look into it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4178440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0MMY Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I used the scion legs and heads with forge world shotgun vet torsos... Needed some serious neck trimming and some greenstuff on the waist joints but otherwise fit was ok. I dunno bout the hostile environment kits though http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/llltomlll/yer%20im%20a%20geek/IMG_5863x_zpsnshmmy5m.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4178593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audemus Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 They look great Audemus. Is there a vox-operater in the kit? I had not seen that in the forgeworld pictures. What I'm worried about is wether they will all look the same with the hostile environment kit, since the heads and torsos are all stuck together. My main problem with the respirator upgrade is the sergeants head, the one with the hat and rebreather. I would rather have an entire squad with helmets. So, thanks for the replies, I think I will be going for the hostile environment kit. The holstered lasgun and other such cool upgrades from the respirator kit I guess can find on ebay. The Vox operator is actually in my first pic on the far right, he's kinda looking down at the ground. His backpack, while different, does not look anything like a normal Vox Operator but he has a mouthpiece that is in front of his face which I guess represents his ability to communicate on the radio. It's bizarre but Forge World can get that way sometimes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4178749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I have cadians with respirators and veterans with shotguns. All in all really nice, crisp sculpts that are far more to scale. Love them . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4179181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 So, more questions :P The Elysian drop troops, are their legs and torsos all in 1 piece? I would love to combine Elysian armour with the cadian hostile environment equipment :D Man, creating a Regiment is tougher than I expected Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4179241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 That's a recipe for poverty my friend, I don't wanna think about the price of running that! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4179302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Elysians actually look great with cadian respirators and yes their torsos are separate. I would love to do it, but first I need the income of a small country. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558258.page Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4179322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 That's a recipe for poverty my friend, I don't wanna think about the price of running that! Well, Im planning a very small army (500 points). So far I only need 1 veteran squad But yes, the price is huuuuge. They just look so much better than cadians. My only other idea would be DKoK Elysians actually look great with cadian respirators and yes their torsos are separate. I would love to do it, but first I need the income of a small country. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/558258.page I had seen those images before, sadly those are not cadian torsos, they are elysian torsos with greenstuff. But good to know they are separate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4179405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I was planning a very small Guard force. I now no longer know exactly how much Guard I own... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4179934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 I was planning a very small Guard force. I now no longer know exactly how much Guard I own... Oh well, more men for the meat grinder I guess :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4179953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I was planning a very small Guard force. I now no longer know exactly how much Guard I own... I can cover a whole table and never run out of guard to paint. I can relate :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4179991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 I was planning a very small Guard force. I now no longer know exactly how much Guard I own... I can cover a whole table and never run out of guard to paint. I can relate What have I gotten myself into... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4180000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 You're in the Guard now Magnus, you only leave feet first and surrounded by the corpses of the Emperor's enemies! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4180037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMagnus Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Okay, so one guard squad with the idea I had in mind is about 100€ for 10 men so... http://popcrush.com/files/2015/09/NopeNopeNope.gif I will have to go back to my original idea of cadians with upgrades. Atleast thats only 40-something-€. Or DKoK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4180226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Be glad for the guard are the true chosen of the Emperor! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313985-fw-cadian-upgrades/#findComment-4180281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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