01RTB01 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I have to say I respectfully disagree. I pod my leviathan, has claw and drill and it's always got to combat regardless of opponents best efforts. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Ya, my experience has been the other way also. My drop pod levi has been an absolute scourge on the table run grav/claw/phosphex at the 1500 - 2000pt level. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Ya, my experience has been the other way also. My drop pod levi has been an absolute scourge on the table run grav/claw/phosphex at the 1500 - 2000pt level. I tend to play 2.5-3.5k and it's a monster. I find him more use than fulgrim in that respect! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Yep, mine has murdered everything from thanatars to stormsurges in combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Mines punched knights heads in once it walked up the table lol. No issues Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Lol what else are you guys using on the table? Every time I or Athrawes use one it gets blown up the turn it comes down. I can't think of how it wouldn't die unless you ignore it :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 If you send your leviathan into the jaws of hell without any support, and all 2000 points of the enemy teams shoots him up, well, what do you expect will happen? m0nolith and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 If you send your leviathan into the jaws of hell without any support, and all 2000 points of the enemy teams shoots him up, well, what do you expect will happen? Umm I send in a Dreadclaw of justaerin, kharybdis of 20 tacticals, and 15 reavers among other things. Athrawes has dropped one in my back lines only to get nuked by two rapier batteries, despite there being a Warlord on his side. It's not getting sent in Willy nilly, but putting it close to all that firepower is just silly - hence why I'd rather walk it. I've seen a 7 man squad with plasma guns kill a Levi :P maybe bad rolling but it can happen. Y'all must be playing with all infantry armies haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Mines punched knights heads in once it walked up the table lol. No issues Same here, alas the corpse of the knight then landed on eidolon mid combat with autek morr. Eidolon died,morr survived. Sadly no points for slaying my own warlord :D Fenbain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4582784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I've been using three in pods, two with drills and melta lances, one with grav, snippy claw and volkite. I've found the target saturation of three on turn one helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I've been using three in pods, two with drills and melta lances, one with grav, snippy claw and volkite. I've found the target saturation of three on turn one helps. What are you running in two other pods to do this? 3 seems like an exterminatus! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 God three Leviathan's is filth :P I love it! 01RTB01 and Flint13 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I've been using three in pods, two with drills and melta lances, one with grav, snippy claw and volkite. I've found the target saturation of three on turn one helps. What are you running in two other pods to do this? 3 seems like an exterminatus! Two dreadclaws filled with Augmented Inductii. BLACK BLŒ FLY and 1ncarnadine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I've been using three in pods, two with drills and melta lances, one with grav, snippy claw and volkite. I've found the target saturation of three on turn one helps. What are you running in two other pods to do this? 3 seems like an exterminatus!Two dreadclaws filled with Augmented Inductii. What are inductii? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Crazy worldeaters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 What are inductii? They are World Eater tactical squads, "improved" by Master Apothecary Gahlan Surlak to be stronger and more rage-filled. They get +1 strength and FNP 6+, while also being unable to score or be joined by characters. They also don't give up a Victory point if destroyed. In combination with their chain axe, they effectively have krak grenades for hands. 01RTB01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 -1 BS also, i always like to shoot with them and imagine their misses just making them more angry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 I've been using three in pods, two with drills and melta lances, one with grav, snippy claw and volkite. I've found the target saturation of three on turn one helps. I feel sorry for the poor sod that has to face three leviathans :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4583775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsanguis Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I love the idea of the Death Blossom Leviathan (2x Storm Cannons, 2x Calivers, Phosphex) but worry that once it gets into optimal range it will be minced, especially by Terminators. Has anyone got any solid experience with shooty Leviathans? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4584190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 To put it kindly it's almost a sin not to take either a claw or drill. This past weekend mine pasted a Castigator on the charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4584467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 What are inductii? They are World Eater tactical squads, "improved" by Master Apothecary Gahlan Surlak to be stronger and more rage-filled. They get +1 strength and FNP 6+, while also being unable to score or be joined by characters. They also don't give up a Victory point if destroyed. In combination with their chain axe, they effectively have krak grenades for hands. One krak grenade per unit... how about four grenades per marine?" ~Gahlan Surlak (probably) 1ncarnadine, Fenbain, Lord Asvaldir and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4584540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 What are inductii?They are World Eater tactical squads, "improved" by Master Apothecary Gahlan Surlak to be stronger and more rage-filled. They get +1 strength and FNP 6+, while also being unable to score or be joined by characters. They also don't give up a Victory point if destroyed. In combination with their chain axe, they effectively have krak grenades for hands.One krak grenade per unit... how about four grenades per marine?"~Gahlan Surlak (probably) http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/treacyjohn2/460893EB-B222-49C0-BC8A-44F566599B6B_zpssqxjhtlv.jpg Sappysid101, 01RTB01 and Lord Asvaldir 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4584620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Rage Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Apologies for the slight slight thread-o-mancy, seemed like the best place to ask about the Grav-Flux bombard specifically. Reading the rules, though it has lots of cool rules against models with a toughness value, the haywire rule looks to be absent and thus the statement about using 3D6 for Armour Pen roll is all you get? Though torsion makes any positive a double effect of course. Reason that i ask is that i was considering one for tank hunting but actually it seems as though it is designed for killing models with a 2+ save. You can use the Melta Lance of course but it is 3 shots with a 1/3 chance against AV14 so not my level of assuredness really; though still really good! Am I ready these rules and this unit correctly? Cheers, GotR Edited January 28, 2017 by Guardian of the Rage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4636885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Yep - it ain't much of a tank hunter - average 3D6 roll is 10/11 - the Grav bombars is incredible for taking out things like terminators and rapiers though. You might have luck if you can hit a couple tightly packed Rhinos with it, but that's all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4636898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Yeah all I've managed to do was roll an 11 on a Javelin and just obliterate it because of torsion crusher. Trust me you won't get lucky with it...use it as a last ditch thing or if you don't have a better target. IW DAs get tank hunter and fear on their dreads so the tank hunter might be useful, but your averages won't help you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315048-leviathan-siege-dread-tactics/page/29/#findComment-4636976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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