HenricusTyranicus Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Hey all! I'm going to be playing a few 500-750 point games soon. I really don't have a ton of experience with games this size, 1850-2000 is usually what I do. What are some rules of running guard at this level, and what type of guard works best? I'm seeing 2 ways I could go. Either I can go for 2 veteran squads with flakk missile launchers and a tank commander as HQ. The idea with this approach would be just crushing the enemy with AV 14 and heavy firepower, which they just can't deal with at such a point level. The alternative, I'm thinking, is go full horde guard, zero vehicles, and laugh as I literally have more bodies than they have bullets. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 What missions will you be playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 500pts is very limiting for Guard if you want to use the FOC, so whatever you do you should focus on it. Guard horde is pretty effective as you can as you say bring more to the table than others can deal with along with plenty of supporting special/heavy weapons. Otherwise Vets are your main choice, though you can also get a Platoon and Vet build in for a bit of both. A couple of Chimeras can do well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'm Heckus Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'd go something like: CCS: -commander w/ carapace & krak grenades -2 plasma vets, 2 lasgun vets, carapace armor Vets: -3 meltagun vets, grenadiers (Carapace) Vets: -3 meltagun vets, grenadiers (Carapace) 3 ratling snipers 3 ratling snipers 3 ratling snipers Armored sentinel w/ lascannon Armored sentinel w/ autocannon 500. Mobile with some punch. Snipers are there to harass but losing one or two squads of them doesn't hurt at that price. Place a sentinel with each vet squad for mobile HW support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Hrmm I like the idea of running sentinels w/ vets as a mobile fire base If I ever get around to putting mine together I might try this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Sentinels work well in low points, especially as you can get a few on the table :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrkul Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Rampart detachment is 500pts (no upgrades). Why you ask? Because it be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 CCS in a chimera, two vet squads, and a demolisher. Use the rest of the points to: 1) give the vets carapace or chamelioline 2) give the CCS weapons 3) give the vets weapons With the CCS, the Chimera, and the demolisher, you can target three enemy units a turn, that should be plenty at 500 points. The vets are there to score and draw fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greycat Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I would run 2 basilisks and 2 veteran units in chimera. Unbound and just a heap of fire power and 4 av12 vehicles would be hard to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenricusTyranicus Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 Thanks for all the advice! One big thing is I need the ability to deal with flyers. I know at least one opponent in this campaign loves Air Calvary Scions. Another opponent is using tyranids, and yet another, daemons. I'm thinking some vets with Flakk missile launchers, given how many multiwound T4 3+ models tyranids have could be really handy. Expensive, of course, but with 2 or 3 such teams, I wouldn't be horribly scared of any army. Infantry, Mech, flyer, monster, I have something to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Thanks for all the advice! One big thing is I need the ability to deal with flyers. I know at least one opponent in this campaign loves Air Calvary Scions. Another opponent is using tyranids, and yet another, daemons. I'm thinking some vets with Flakk missile launchers, given how many multiwound T4 3+ models tyranids have could be really handy. Expensive, of course, but with 2 or 3 such teams, I wouldn't be horribly scared of any army. Infantry, Mech, flyer, monster, I have something to deal with it. Honestly? Just replace the demolisher in my list with a vendetta...almost as good as the S10 pieplate against ground targets, and three godhammmers against aircraft! /edit/ Vendetta does antitank and anti-flier better than missiles, and for anti-infantry, well, that's an IG specialty, the six shots from the chimera plus the shooting of your 25 infantry should handle that fine. Honestly, who has 25 infantry per 500 points, well-equipped, and still has toys like chimeras and tanks/fliers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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