snazzyninja Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I've been looking on ebay for the old metal stormtrooper models (the ones before the karskin came out) and have seen some NIB squads going for around the £45 mark and I was just wandering if its worth paying for them brand new still or whether I should just buy some old painted ones and strip them down. The only reason I'm asking is the models are fantastic and I don't know how much detail painted ones would retain after being stripped down? I don't really mind paying £45 for un opened box but wouldn't mind saving some pennies if there wont be much difference between the 2 after stripping painted ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The old metal ones are practically bomb proof so I'd say go for the cheaper option and get 2nd handed painted ones. £45 seems a bit steep to me I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snazzyninja Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Thanks what's the best paint stripper to get? Don't want to get anything that's either not strong enough or too strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 As long as it is all metal then use acetone. Cheap, fast and available in most diy stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snazzyninja Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Thanks elmo :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismogrendel Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Look at an ultrasonic cleaner on Amazon too. $25 for a tiny one. I pour simple green or la awesome in, drop in a few minis and hit go. The paint just falls off after about 10-15 mins in the cleaner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasonic_cleaning It is awesome, great time saver for me so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Yeah just strip them. Im still struggling to get my hands on more kasrkin haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snazzyninja Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 how many are you after? I dug out a squad of 8 last night I had from years ago that im not going to be using which you could have? A few of the antenna's on the backpacks are a bit bent and they will need stripping but other that that they are in good nick its actually 7, just remembered the melta gunner is just an old metal cadian one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 how many are you after? I dug out a squad of 8 last night I had from years ago that im not going to be using which you could have? A few of the antenna's on the backpacks are a bit bent and they will need stripping but other that that they are in good nick its actually 7, just remembered the melta gunner is just an old metal cadian one.. Im sure shipping to South Africa will be really expensive, but I will be in the UK in April. Maybe I could take them off ur hands then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snazzyninja Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Yeah sounds like a plan, if I get some old stormtrooper models that need stripping I will strip the karskin models for you as well :) I think there's a sergeant, grenade launcher and flamer in the squad and 4 normal dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have a Militarum Tempestus platoon's worth of Kasrkin, that are pretty amazing, even though I had to scrounge backpacks for about a third of them from my scion bits bin. As for paint stripper, as elmo said acetone will work on metal, just remember to remove the bases or they'll melt. Other than that, Simple Green, Purple Power, or some citrus based degreasers will do it. I like purple power because it's plastic and resin safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallarn Commander Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Yes, there are many excellent stripping agents. Ironfist mentioned Simple Green. I've been using Simple Green on my plastics and metals for 17 years. Iove it! Just be sure to cut it with water (at least a 1:1 ratio) because (even though it's completely non toxic) it's strong stuff. It looks like there is a South Africa distributor in Capetown, according to this website: http://simplegreen.com/global-partners/ Have fun with the stormies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hmmm...I love me some of the old astronaut stormtroopers...but I love the kasrkin more! I even have a very small number of the old metal bereted ones, before the astronauts...the sergeants make great platoon commanders with their hellpistols and power swords (the power cord for the pistol looks like a lanyard, so it doesn't even offend WYSIWYG) I love the idea of an ultrasonic cleaner for stripping metal models...gonna try that, I have scores of secondhand cadians who need integration into my forces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Having used dettol and simple green I'd go for dettol hands down. Paint literally falls off minimal scrubbing required! If you're gonna use it with a US bath then I imagine no scrubbing required at all. I've left plastic and metal minis in dettol baths for months and nothing bad has happened to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmo Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Ultrasonic cleaners are the way to go. Just make sure you buy one big enough. Mine is a 2ltr volume one and will fit a devilfish but not quite fully immerse a landraider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 There's also this for an option. Sometimes chemical stripping agents will leave patches of paint untouched, even with hours of scrubbing (I know from experience, not so much with metal models, but definitely with resin and plastic ones). I plan on getting one, at some point, since it has more uses than just for models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraRich Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 If you do use dettol you can water it down a bit so it goes cloudy. You must wear gloves though. I didnt the first time i uaed it and it dried out my hands and made them flakey for days. It does work really well though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snazzyninja Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Stupid question but would latex gloves suffice or something else that's a bit thicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraRich Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 They are fine. Its what i used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snazzyninja Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ok thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 If you do use dettol you can water it down a bit so it goes cloudy. You must wear gloves though. I didnt the first time i uaed it and it dried out my hands and made them flakey for days. It does work really well though I don't bother with gloves, I just use moisturiser afterwards. It will depend on the individual how they react to something like Dettol - I have really sensitive skin, I get irritated by a lot of things but Dettol doesn't bother me anymore than hot water. On the other hand, latex gloves really irritate me, I end up all itchy and sometimes with a rash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Sounds like an allergic reaction, some of my family are sensitive to that too. Just get other gloves, or use a fork to fish them out :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I wear gloves purely to avoid the smell and mess! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Sounds like an allergic reaction, some of my family are sensitive to that too. Just get other gloves, or use a fork to fish them out Indeed it is. But as there's no reaction to Dettol I don't bother with gloves at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I didnt even think of an ultrasonic cleaner. I have a 200L one at work haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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