wulfgar hammerfist Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 I tried wulfen in a LR Redeemer today. Five wulfen, pack leader, 2 TH/SS, 2 GFA, 2 Grenade Launchers. I ran them in a CAD coupled with the Deathpack formation. I played against RG and he had the Shadowstrike Kill Team, Raptorwing and I think a CAD. We were playing cleanse and control with Vanguard Strike. He dropped both VV squads and two drop pods in my face and killed the Redeemer with two melta shots. The resulting explosion killed a single Wulfen and a random assortment of marines and skyclaws. He charged into the Wulfen with both VV squads and his warlord and the Wulfen chewed them up as well as the warlord. The wulfen proceeded to kill two more scout squads before they were finally brought down. They were a huge psychological threat and I think they altered my opponent's game plan as he jumped right into the teeth of my army. The LR is expensive but it gives a level of protection. Still not convinced which way to go. I may try to foot slog them next. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4314450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Great job Triszin! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4314581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarog Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I tried wulfen in a LR Redeemer today. Five wulfen, pack leader, 2 TH/SS, 2 GFA, 2 Grenade Launchers. I ran them in a CAD coupled with the Deathpack formation. I played against RG and he had the Shadowstrike Kill Team, Raptorwing and I think a CAD. We were playing cleanse and control with Vanguard Strike. He dropped both VV squads and two drop pods in my face and killed the Redeemer with two melta shots. The resulting explosion killed a single Wulfen and a random assortment of marines and skyclaws. He charged into the Wulfen with both VV squads and his warlord and the Wulfen chewed them up as well as the warlord. The wulfen proceeded to kill two more scout squads before they were finally brought down. They were a huge psychological threat and I think they altered my opponent's game plan as he jumped right into the teeth of my army. The LR is expensive but it gives a level of protection. Still not convinced which way to go. I may try to foot slog them next. A guy at my club plays RG with this near exact list. Good to know how they faired. I've played him twice against it, first time he really pulled my pants down, second time he still won but it was so much closer. Next time, I hope I can turn the tables with some wulfen buffs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4314768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesmuffins Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I tried wulfen in a LR Redeemer today. Five wulfen, pack leader, 2 TH/SS, 2 GFA, 2 Grenade Launchers. I ran them in a CAD coupled with the Deathpack formation. I played against RG and he had the Shadowstrike Kill Team, Raptorwing and I think a CAD. We were playing cleanse and control with Vanguard Strike. He dropped both VV squads and two drop pods in my face and killed the Redeemer with two melta shots. The resulting explosion killed a single Wulfen and a random assortment of marines and skyclaws. He charged into the Wulfen with both VV squads and his warlord and the Wulfen chewed them up as well as the warlord. The wulfen proceeded to kill two more scout squads before they were finally brought down. They were a huge psychological threat and I think they altered my opponent's game plan as he jumped right into the teeth of my army. The LR is expensive but it gives a level of protection. Still not convinced which way to go. I may try to foot slog them next. A guy at my club plays RG with this near exact list. Good to know how they faired.I've played him twice against it, first time he really pulled my pants down, second time he still won but it was so much closer. Next time, I hope I can turn the tables with some wulfen buffs. I'm thiking foot slogging the formation is what works best for the cost of a land raider you can have another 5 man squad of wulfen with a couple of shields and you're going to have to make your opponent choose the lesser of 2 evils by figuring out if they should target the wulfen or Thunderwolves. My bet is they target the wulfen as the thunderwolves have more staying power. Anything that draws fire away from harald and his Wolf escort service is fine with me. Running them with 2 10 man and 1 5 man packs of hunters in a seperate cad wirh ulrik and a pack of missile fangs for support. Still trying to squeeze enough points into the list to fit in at least 1 squad of scouts with camocloaks and sniper rifles for more long range support and a servitor for the elite tax on my cotgw. The reason I want to run it this way is I'm not sure I like the pack formations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4314804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfgar hammerfist Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I tried wulfen in a LR Redeemer today. Five wulfen, pack leader, 2 TH/SS, 2 GFA, 2 Grenade Launchers. I ran them in a CAD coupled with the Deathpack formation. I played against RG and he had the Shadowstrike Kill Team, Raptorwing and I think a CAD. We were playing cleanse and control with Vanguard Strike. He dropped both VV squads and two drop pods in my face and killed the Redeemer with two melta shots. The resulting explosion killed a single Wulfen and a random assortment of marines and skyclaws. He charged into the Wulfen with both VV squads and his warlord and the Wulfen chewed them up as well as the warlord. The wulfen proceeded to kill two more scout squads before they were finally brought down. They were a huge psychological threat and I think they altered my opponent's game plan as he jumped right into the teeth of my army. The LR is expensive but it gives a level of protection. Still not convinced which way to go. I may try to foot slog them next. A guy at my club plays RG with this near exact list. Good to know how they faired.I've played him twice against it, first time he really pulled my pants down, second time he still won but it was so much closer. Next time, I hope I can turn the tables with some wulfen buffs. I'm thiking foot slogging the formation is what works best for the cost of a land raider you can have another 5 man squad of wulfen with a couple of shields and you're going to have to make your opponent choose the lesser of 2 evils by figuring out if they should target the wulfen or Thunderwolves. My bet is they target the wulfen as the thunderwolves have more staying power. Anything that draws fire away from harald and his Wolf escort service is fine with me. Running them with 2 10 man and 1 5 man packs of hunters in a seperate cad wirh ulrik and a pack of missile fangs for support. Still trying to squeeze enough points into the list to fit in at least 1 squad of scouts with camocloaks and sniper rifles for more long range support and a servitor for the elite tax on my cotgw. The reason I want to run it this way is I'm not sure I like the pack formations. I agree. I will give that a shot once I get the second pack converted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4314840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feyralwolf Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm still debating how I plan to assemble my Wulfen (and might do something like the tutorial that can net 11 instead of five from the pack). I'm looking for suggestions though on how to kit them out. I like the idea of the axes and the punch daggers, but I realize that the shields give them a strong survability boost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4314994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I tried wulfen in a LR Redeemer today. Five wulfen, pack leader, 2 TH/SS, 2 GFA, 2 Grenade Launchers. I ran them in a CAD coupled with the Deathpack formation. I played against RG and he had the Shadowstrike Kill Team, Raptorwing and I think a CAD. We were playing cleanse and control with Vanguard Strike. He dropped both VV squads and two drop pods in my face and killed the Redeemer with two melta shots. The resulting explosion killed a single Wulfen and a random assortment of marines and skyclaws. He charged into the Wulfen with both VV squads and his warlord and the Wulfen chewed them up as well as the warlord. The wulfen proceeded to kill two more scout squads before they were finally brought down. They were a huge psychological threat and I think they altered my opponent's game plan as he jumped right into the teeth of my army. The LR is expensive but it gives a level of protection. Still not convinced which way to go. I may try to foot slog them next. I actually built my wulfen based off of your list. I like the flexibility and the threat level it has. I will be foot slogging them but I tend to run a list of just pure threat value so while yes they can choose to shot my wulfen off the board, it's just going to give my TWC the time they need to get up the field, DP's to land, and LF's to pick apart their army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulfgar hammerfist Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I'm finding that approach works pretty well. When the RG dropped into my army he had to choose between the TWC and wulfen and either choice was going to see him get eaten in my assault phase by whichever he didn't choose. The wulfen at I5 are great for murdering stuff and the shields give a lot of resiliency. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If anyone has any suggestions or want me to try anything specific out with the last tutorial let me know. I plan on making a WOlf priest, lord, and a rune priest. DUnno how I'm going to equip the lord yet. Also considering making a wulfen iron priest using murderfangs head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 spent the night adding heels to my Wulfen's feet. Easy sculpting and helps a lot, IMO. Will get some photos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 So this last week I saw two Wulfen builds, 3 th/ss Pack Leader Great Frost Axe Abd 4 ss/th Pack leader The first build went up against a MASSIVE IG gunline. The SW player flanked the Wulfen by an embarked unit of Blood Claws and a big TWC unit. And while only one TH/SS Wulfen got into close combat, the TWC and disembarked Blood Claes were about mid strength size still. All three wrecked straight havoc once in the IG lines. His other Wulfen unit was delivered undamaged by a LR and decimated a huge ogre squad supported by a priest and commissar. In the second case, SW player was up against Tau. His Wulfen were in close proximity to a GH pack and a WGTDA pack. The Wulfen took a huge amount of fire but once they got into the Tau lines, the two left decimated a ton of points. Key to take away, if they have close support in terms of high threat targets they are either going to take fire away from those units or the fire will be shared across multiple units thus making it less effective for each. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fytharin Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 So this last week I saw two Wulfen builds, 3 th/ss Pack Leader Great Frost Axe Abd 4 ss/th Pack leader The first build went up against a MASSIVE IG gunline. The SW player flanked the Wulfen by an embarked unit of Blood Claws and a big TWC unit. And while only one TH/SS Wulfen got into close combat, the TWC and disembarked Blood Claes were about mid strength size still. All three wrecked straight havoc once in the IG lines. His other Wulfen unit was delivered undamaged by a LR and decimated a huge ogre squad supported by a priest and commissar. In the second case, SW player was up against Tau. His Wulfen were in close proximity to a GH pack and a WGTDA pack. The Wulfen took a huge amount of fire but once they got into the Tau lines, the two left decimated a ton of points. Key to take away, if they have close support in terms of high threat targets they are either going to take fire away from those units or the fire will be shared across multiple units thus making it less effective for each. This is exactly what I'm hoping for, thanks for the feedback! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 So here's my wulfen-with-heels I was talking about. Need to sand them to get the sizing cosistant. Otherwise I like this a lot more. Rune Priest on the end is for my Wyrdbros. He's supposed to be be in power armor, but he's huge. I've been affectionately calling him Biomancy Bob. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 So this last week I saw two Wulfen builds, 3 th/ss Pack Leader Great Frost Axe Abd 4 ss/th Pack leader The first build went up against a MASSIVE IG gunline. The SW player flanked the Wulfen by an embarked unit of Blood Claws and a big TWC unit. And while only one TH/SS Wulfen got into close combat, the TWC and disembarked Blood Claes were about mid strength size still. All three wrecked straight havoc once in the IG lines. His other Wulfen unit was delivered undamaged by a LR and decimated a huge ogre squad supported by a priest and commissar. In the second case, SW player was up against Tau. His Wulfen were in close proximity to a GH pack and a WGTDA pack. The Wulfen took a huge amount of fire but once they got into the Tau lines, the two left decimated a ton of points. Key to take away, if they have close support in terms of high threat targets they are either going to take fire away from those units or the fire will be shared across multiple units thus making it less effective for each. This is exactly what I'm hoping for, thanks for the feedback! I am personally thinking of bubble wrapping my Wulfen with TWC and Rhino embarked GH/BC. This will really put the choice on my opponent to prioritize his target selection, but with whatever he chooses he will still have two or more dangerous units making their way towards his lines. A couple TWC with SS/TH Bare bones TWC IP on TWM with cyber wolves Wulfen with a couple of ss/th Great Frost Axe 2 x frost Claws Flanked by two Rhinos with GH or BC. TWC and tip and edges of spear, Wulfen is bad stuff that gets thrust into lines. So here's my wulfen-with-heels I was talking about. Need to sand them to get the sizing cosistant. Otherwise I like this a lot more. Rune Priest on the end is for my Wyrdbros. He's supposed to be be in power armor, but he's huge. I've been affectionately calling him Biomancy Bob. That is a nice little aesthetic change! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesmuffins Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I like the idea of screening them behind rhinos and flanked by twc. Could just go all sorts of msu and run some razor backs for fire support while moving Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I like the idea of screening them behind rhinos and flanked by twc. Could just go all sorts of msu and run some razor backs for fire support while moving Oh yea, some lasplas running alongside as screening would be insane. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4315920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I like the idea of screening them behind rhinos and flanked by twc. Could just go all sorts of msu and run some razor backs for fire support while moving I would almost want to see if I could go with a Ironwolves formation for fast vehices with disembark bonus to screen and free upgrades to screen the TWC and Murderpacks. I think the synergy needed would be for the BC and GH to keep up with the TWC and Wulfen with the Wulfen giving all the curse bonus with added bonus to hunt and kill tables. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4316587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostblade Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 So I quickly scanned through the thread and I didn't see anything about it, how hard do those of you who've gotten your hands on the models think it would be to magnetize these bad boys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4316952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesmuffins Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 So I quickly scanned through the thread and I didn't see anything about it, how hard do those of you who've gotten your hands on the models think it would be to magnetize these bad boys?On a scale from 1 to really flippin hard..... Really flippin hard. I think you could do it but there are 2 spots in each arm you'd have to magnetize. The shoulder joint and hands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4316969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 How many arms come in the box? Is there more than 10? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4317127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesmuffins Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 How many arms come in the box? Is there more than 10?It's quite a bit. I don't have them in front of me at the moment but more than 10 yes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4317197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnalbel Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 How many arms come in the box? Is there more than 10? each model has 4 arms, the pack leader has 2 more (only has the claw option) 4*5+2 = 22 arms in total Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4317493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gherrick Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Then I would think it shouldn't be too hard to magnetize the extra arms to extra weapons so you can swap out weapon loadouts as needed. It will be an issue for the axes, however, as trying to magnetize two handed weapons is a real PITA. I'm not convinced axes are worth taking in general, unless you expect to go up against a lot of T6+ MCs. I'd probably make 4 sets of TH/SS arms, and another 4 sets of frost claws, and the remaining as empty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4317521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnalbel Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 you have arms A B C D for each model A + B are for axes C + D are used for claws/bare hands A + D are used for TH/SS IF you build em according to the box Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4317564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesmuffins Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Then I would think it shouldn't be too hard to magnetize the extra arms to extra weapons so you can swap out weapon loadouts as needed. It will be an issue for the axes, however, as trying to magnetize two handed weapons is a real PITA. I'm not convinced axes are worth taking in general, unless you expect to go up against a lot of T6+ MCs. I'd probably make 4 sets of TH/SS arms, and another 4 sets of frost claws, and the remaining as empty. If you do magnetize can you post pictures on how you did it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319139-the-wulfen-thread/page/3/#findComment-4317579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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