Slips Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Here it is! In Collection form with LA:CAL and Book 6 (Honestly, avoid it until LA:CAL gets updated which is "Soon") http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/The-Retribution-Campaign-Collection http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/60020187013_RetributionCampaignCollection01.jpg And Solo: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/The-Horus-Heresy-Book-Six-Retribution http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/60040187049_HorusHeresyRetribution01.jpg In the mean time, heres a video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9TxaNnXN24 Also a Bunch of Bundles! Contemptor-Cortus Talon: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Contemptor-Cortus-Class-Dreadnought-Talon\ http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99020187193_ContemptorCortusClassDreadnoughtTalon01.jpg World Eaters and Word Bearers: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/World-Eaters-Word-Bearers-Shattered-Legion-Bundle http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99020187195_WorldEatersShatteredLegionBundle01.jpg Knights-Errant Shattered Legions Force: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Knights-Errant-Shattered-Legion-Force http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99020187196_KnightErrantShatteredLegionBundle01.jpg Survivors of Istvaan Force: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Survivors-of-Isstvan-Shattered-Legion-Force http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99020187198_RavenGuardCaptainshatteredlegionbundle01.jpg (Interesting use of Korvydae) Iron Hands Shattered Legions Force: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Iron-Shadows-Shattered-Legion-Force http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99020187197_IronFathershatteredlegionbundle01.jpg Leviathan Dreadnought Talon: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Leviathan-Pattern-Siege-Dreadnought-Talon http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99020187194_LeviathanPatternSiegeDreadnoughtTalon01.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Woop woop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Updated first post with the actual books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Is it definitely updated? Which one were they selling on the weekend? I'm having such a brain fail, this would have to be the generic one not the legion one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Can somebody please confirmt his is the new red book? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 First - I'd be careful with the book bundle. At the Weekender we got the updated Legion-specific red book, this appears to be the base Crusade list red-book, and I can't see anything in the description to say it's updated. My gut tells me that this is the old Crusade book, and ForgeWorld are in the process of updating this book with the newer units from the past couple of years. My advice, avoid the bundle and just buy book 6 on it's own - you don't get any discount by buying the two together, and you'll only kick yourself later when the updated red book comes out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yup, Editing the post! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Definitely not the updated one I assume. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 See they are selling the normal Contemptors as Cortus too? No new model coming we can likely assume. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 lol at the Contemptor-"Cortus" bundle. Also kind of confirms that you can just use regular Contemptors and say "this was built badly and is a Cortus now. have fun." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Also boo for using regular contemptors as cortus. Way to differentiate. I know it would mean sculpting a whole other dreadnought but if it's a contemptor lite, I'd want to see some difference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yeah I had to do a double-take - they're identical. Way to go FW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Polo Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 lol at the Contemptor-"Cortus" bundle. Also kind of confirms that you can just use regular Contemptors and say "this was built badly and is a Cortus now. have fun." Finally, a use for all these eBay Pro Painted contemptors! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Also boo for using regular contemptors as cortus. Way to differentiate. I know it would mean sculpting a whole other dreadnought but if it's a contemptor lite, I'd want to see some difference. The Cortus is not a Contemptor "light" but more of a Contemptor that was built too quickly, resulting in a shaky interment and maybe some lighter plating here and there. Outwardly it can look the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 We'll see about the Contemptor-Cortus getting an Actual Model. Ive seen some people say they might be 6+ months out if we're to get any at all. But with the Legion-Specific Contemptors and the Relic Chassis Available and very possibly outselling this Model, it kinda makes sense for them to try and push sales of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Second, I'm going to go negative for a second (which is unusual, I'm normally one of ForgeWorlds biggest supporters / cheerleaders), and say that some of these bundles are cop-outs. When the Contemptor Cortus was first announced it was described as a small & scrappier version of the Contemptor (which I imagined Scrappy Doo to Scooby Doo), and hence was expecting a new sculpt. Seems like the basic Contemptor hasn't been selling (and why would you, when you buy the Relic or the Legion specific ones), and Betrayl at Calth has a plastic version that will make this one obsolete - solution: re-badge it as the Cortus, avoid the process of designing a new model and re-use the existing sculpt as a new unit and hopefully drive some sales of an outdated model. Lazy to say the least. The Leviathan Bundle saves you no money (not a penny) but forces a fixed configuration onto your models in 4 CC weapons (3 claws and one drill) and one each of the two current ranged weapons. Not only did ForgeWorld Bundles used to save you money (even if it were in the single digit %, it was still a saving), but having three Leviathans I only have a single claw and drill and opted for 4 ranged weapons. I wouldn't touch this deal, I'd pay the same and swap the weapon configurations to what I wanted. Plus I'd wait for the Melta weapon that was available at the Weekender. The other bundles seem weird in their composition. I haven't added them up, but I'm guessing they're along a similar lines as the Leviathan and Book bundles in that they don't save you money. They just seem like weird assemblies of random models from different forces thrown together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 We'll see about the Contemptor-Cortus getting an Actual Model. Ive seen some people say they might be 6+ months out if we're to get any at all. But with the Legion-Specific Contemptors and the Relic Chassis Available and very possibly outselling this Model, it kinda makes sense for them to try and push sales of it. That was possibly me on the 6+ months? It was from the Retribution seminar IIRC? Well they said it to a big crowd but I think I've posted that number once or twice. I think Tony actually said 6 to 12 months. Anyway they're bringing the Contemptor into CAD so it'll be a long while before we see new Contemptor variants, which may or may not include an official Cortus model. I didn't ask if the Thousand Sons Contemptor was done in CAD or not; if not, it's probably the last of the non-CAD Contemptors we'll see. Otherwise we've already seen the end of them unless they've held some things back (admittedly very likely). The Leviathan Bundle saves you no money (not a penny) but forces a fixed configuration onto your models in 4 CC weapons (3 claws and one drill) and one each of the two current ranged weapons. Not only did ForgeWorld Bundles used to save you money (even if it were in the single digit %, it was still a saving), but having three Leviathans I only have a single claw and drill and opted for 4 ranged weapons. I wouldn't touch this deal, I'd pay the same and swap the weapon configurations to what I wanted. Plus I'd wait for the Melta weapon that was available at the Weekender. The other bundles seem weird in their composition. I haven't added them up, but I'm guessing they're along a similar lines as the Leviathan and Book bundles in that they don't save you money. They just seem like weird assemblies of random models from different forces thrown together. Yeah the bundles have been disappointing for a while Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 For my third and final point, I'll go back to being positive. Book VI is actually my favourite book in the Heresy series so far, and considering this originally felt like a Conquest-style 'filler' book that didn't introduce any new Legions (in full, with background, units and characters) and didn't cover any majorly known engagements, it's one of the most interesting and transformative books out there. Formalising rulesets for Blackshields, Shattered Legions, Armies of Dark Compliance, etc, shows that ForgeWorld are not only understand the grey areas that a series like this can take, and are actively encouraging you to embrace this way of thinking. I've seen so many blogs of people doing armies around the Shattered Legions, or Loyalist Traitors and vice-versa - well here are some official rules for you to go do it. I've actually now started thinking about adapting my Word Bearers force to be a Shadow Crusade force with some World Eater elements (sporting the new Red and White livery). New rites of war for all Legions and generic Astartes forces breathes new life into some stale forces. I've actually loved the idea of having a RoW allowing Dreadnought and Contemptor talons as troops (some of the drawbacks are a bit harsh, we'll see), and as a result picked up both of the new Techmarine models to go alongside the Apothecaries I already have to enable it. There's a lot of different play styles now, leading to some fun and fluffy armies. Plot points are now moving in a post Isstvan direction, and some look like to bear decent fruit. I love the Xana Incursion incident, and can't wait to see how the Dark Mechanicum are going to develop. In short - if you're into the Heresy system then this book is almost a must. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yeah the bundles have been disappointing for a while Ironically the Contemptor Cortus bundle does save you money. Standalone body is £33 plus two weapons for £9.50 each brings each one to £52, and a trio to £156. That's an £11 / 7% saving - but I'd actually want different weapons :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Just want to chime in and say that there is an updated LACAL book coming. I would avoid the first bundle as you will have a paperweight sometime later this year if you buy it (I don't know the timeline on it, but we know for sure its coming). For the updated Campaign book don't expect anything for at least a month. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 I agree on the weapon options: Why a Conversion Beamer and Heavy Bolter of all weapons? I'd preferred an "Artillery Dreadnought Talon" That had 3 Conversion Beamers to this. The Heavy Bolter is pretty much never taken out of a few showpieces I've seen. Its cool for varieties sake but its rarely taken; why not push the Volkite Culverin by putting that into the bundle instead? At least this saves you money, I guess. If you've got some spare arms lying around this would be a decent one to get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yeah the bundles have been disappointing for a while Ironically the Contemptor Cortus bundle does save you money. Standalone body is £33 plus two weapons for £9.50 each brings each one to £52, and a trio to £156. That's an £11 / 7% saving - but I'd actually want different weapons hahah I didn't even look until you said that but... a conversion beamer?? on the Contemptor that can get bonuses to running and moving? oh ForgeWorld... actually I guess it's much cheaper access to a HCB that's firing a large blast anyway so never mind the BS hit. Carry on FW. ugh but no claws for grav/plas blaster fists. nope. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Gonna order the book on Monday when I get paid :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archidamus Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Time to add another black book to my collection. Bringing me to a grand total of 2 black books. Not been this excited for a book since Massacre came out, except for inferno of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Terrible bundurus aside, I have ordered my book along with some Salamander and World Eaters doors/transfers/bits. Tis will be a glorious package to return home to! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319157-horus-heresy-book-6-retribution-up-for-sale/#findComment-4304079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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