Leman Russ Vanquisher vs Leman Russ Annihilator.

[Rommel44]

Hey mates, got my Chimeras and starting to work on my Infantry for my DKOK Grenadier Assault Brigade list, however I currently facing a delima. Currently my list has 7x Storm Chimeras (aka come with Autocannon Turrets base), and a Avenger Strike Fighter, and at the moment I am debating between with Leman Russ Varient to field for my Hvy. Support. And since I lack any true Long-Range Anti-Tank Weaponry I am debating to field the Leman Russ Annihilator or the Leman Russ Vanquisher.

 

Both have there pros and cons, but both basically fulfill the same role. The Vanquisher is a bit more expensive point-wise and I have to pay points to make it Twin-Linked with the Coaxial Hvy. Stubber, but it does have the longer range and the 2D6 Armor Penetration. Annihilator is cheaper, and basically a more heavily armored Predator, but lacks any extra penetration power. Plan to field either with a Hull-Mounted Lascannon, so at this point it's basically which one would be more effective. Or would I be better off fielding a different Leman Russ Varient?

 

Appreciate the feedback mates.

[Lukash_]

Beast Hunter Vanquisher is probably my favorite unit in the Guard's arsenal and keeps a lot of things running scared. Not cheap though.

[Rommel44]

Beast Hunter Vanquisher is probably my favorite unit in the Guard's arsenal and keeps a lot of things running scared. Not cheap though.

The DKOK Grenadier Assault Brigade Leman Russ Tanks do not have access to the any of the Special Ammunition.

[Frater Cornelius]

Annihilator would probably be the safer route, given that it gets more high strength shots off. The Vanquisher, however, has a better chance to penetrate AV13-14. Having said that, the Annihilator would be my go-to variant.

[Flash Git jimmy]

The Vanquisher is only truly superior if it's on a tank with BS 4 - a BS 3 Vanquisher Russ won't hit enough with it on the short time it has on the table to truly make use of its gifts, unless you have access to a co-axial stubber or stormbolter (but then you get into only having reliable AT within 36 inches or 24 inches respectively).

 

If your boys are limited to BS 3 on their tanks, I'd recommend the Annihilator. You sacrifice armor penetration capability for more reliable hits, and with a hull lascannon and some multi-melta sponsons it can still be a fearsome anti-tank implement.

 

Hope this helps, and may the Emperor be with you and your regiment.

[Truesight]

DKOK Assault Brigade? So twin linked Vanquisher rounds?  Vanquisher with co-axial heavy stubber and lascannon is the best solution I think.

[CyderPirate]

I'd go with the Vanquisher, too. If you want T/L Lascannons, you've got Heavy Weapon Platoons instead.

[march10k]

I'm confused...some people seem to be saying "Vanquisher cannons are unreliable because/when they only have one BS3 shot" and "paying extra points for a BS3 lascannon is a fantastic idea" at the same time. The reason that I have issues with that is because you're paying 20 points per bonus hit...but you're shooting at targets that are appropriate for S7 guns...20 points per bonus hit on a vindicator is one thing, 20 points per bonus hit on a rhino is

I like Truesight's proposal. In a non-FW list, I never field BS3 vanquishers, but I also never equip my BS4 tanks with anything but vanquisher cannons. I'm contemplating a mont'ka "squadron" of Vansquishers taking advantage of the BS4 bubble...probably still only 3 vanquishers in the list, total, but mutliple BS4 vanquisher cannons is a good thing...the twinlinked BS3 ones are great, too.

[Ulrik_Ironfist]

I like the FW lists, and so I always take my Tanks from the Armored Battlegroup. That means coaxed beasthunter vanquishers.  I like the vanquisher, personally. If I want TL Lascannons, I'll ally my wolves for predators.

[CyderPirate]

Don't forget you can take a Vanquisher as Spotter in the Elite slot for DKOK - I think that also gives him BS4?