OneOfOneThousand Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hi All, Quick one - with the Blood Angel's Blade of Perdition it says something along the lines of (massive paraphrasing) 1 wound caused = 2 wounds taken. Am I to take this as to meaning against one model or against the unit? Played against it over the weekend, and one of my terminators (standard 1 wound ones) suffered a wound, which we then took to mean I lost 2 terminators. I can see it either way, but the more I've thought about it the more I think it should be against one model as if I had 2 models in one unit, one made a save and the other didn't - why would/should I lose both? Happy for thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Wounds that cause additional wounds shouldn't spill over, the same way a D weapon works. Use that as a template. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 To be fair the death fire rule is pretty straight forward it mentions nothing about seperate models. It just says every wound causes by this is counted as two wounds. So you cause 2 wounds it is doubled to 4, you then make 4 saves, if you lose 4, you lose 4. Can be pretty nasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I'm thinking it can actually kill two models with one wound. The reason for this is because it causes the wounds, before saves. The way the dice work, this means that you've caused...two wounds. I'm thinking its effectively a volkite swords, melting through one opponent and into the other behind him, in a whirlwind of destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Wouldn't it also bleed over in challenges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsol Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yes, if the character is killed from one of the two wounds, the second will spill over into the unit. Also how would wound allocation work with this weapon, is it from models in base contact or is it randomly allocated?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Closest to? Usually challenges are fought at the front of the combat. At least that's how we play it anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 certainly seems to be a case of roll to wound. if you cause 1 wound, it becomes 2 player makes a save for each wound if he passes both, nobody dies, if he fails both he loses two models (if they all have 1 wound each). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waizer Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Just spoke to FW about this since the rules weren't 100% clear to me. Every wound caused causes 2 wounds which can remove 2 separate models. So a praetor on the charge (with a bit of luck) can potentially wipe out a 10 man tac squad in 1 round of combat by himself. I know usually FW aren't a definitive answer to a rules query but this time the fella was 100% sure how it is meant to work (and being a SW player tbh I wanted the decision to go the other way) Thought would post this incase there was any debate remaining about the issue :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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