Sviox Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Ah, I understand now. That having been said, the wait for so many stories, and the fact that they would now be told terribly out of sequence with novels and novellas they go with, is just a drag. For a person who let's say new to our HH love, it would be a nightmare to figure out the correct reading order for all the audios, shorts, novellas, limiteds etc. comparing to 40 main novels. The right version would be to have numerical list with all anthologies and stuff - and not only 40 novels and anthologies Like this ? http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy-reading-order.html edit - how long has that been down? :D According to Wayback Machine, at least since the middle of August. I personally prefer Sviox's timeline: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293105-horus-heresy-timeline/ It may be out of date at this point, but it breaks down all the anthologies into individual stories, which I find most helpful. Thanks. I need to update it, but the hosting site changed at some point and as far as I know you can no longer open the original full resolution image there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4509630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Ah, I understand now. That having been said, the wait for so many stories, and the fact that they would now be told terribly out of sequence with novels and novellas they go with, is just a drag. For a person who let's say new to our HH love, it would be a nightmare to figure out the correct reading order for all the audios, shorts, novellas, limiteds etc. comparing to 40 main novels. The right version would be to have numerical list with all anthologies and stuff - and not only 40 novels and anthologies Like this ? http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy-reading-order.html edit - how long has that been down? Speak of the devil, it's just gone back up (re-done) http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy-reading-order.html Though I can't say I'm a fan of it. It's just the release order for the main series, with the novellas and shorts not currently within the numbered series thrown in (Blackshield and Myriad missing). I know, release order is often put forward as a straightforward answer to the question of "How should I work through it?", I'm not saying it's 'wrong', but perhaps a bit unambitious, and redundant once they finish collecting those novellas and shorts together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4510251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah32 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 So on black library's official website, they have announced another Horus Heresy title 'Sons of the Forge' written by Nick Kyme. Any idea on what this is? full novel? novella? audio? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4514341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Sons of the Forge is a 50k word short novel. Kyme thought it was a novella but Laurie Goulding corrected him. Think Tallarn: Ironclad. The final Vulkan novel in his trilogy for the Horus Heresy should follow soon after from the looks of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4514355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Eh, more Salamanders...I don't despise Nick Kyme's Salamanders like some do, but I can't say I'm excited for more of them. Really, I'd like to see someone else do them, for variety if nothing else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4514369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 The following is from Laurie Goulding over on the First Expedition site: Quote Just got back from FantasyCon 2016, where Guy Haley, Gav Thorpe and David Guymer were all in attendance with me. Some juicy HH tidbits came out of the sessions we were in. "This is rumour control. Here are the facts." - Gav gave a reading from 'Corax', from the brand new novella 'Weregeld'. It featured Corax being led by Bjorn through an apparently anonymous warzone to where the VI Legion had built a stronghold from two crashed landing ships. The Space Wolves had been crushed by their MANY enemies (including the Alpha Legion, World Eaters and Thousand Sons) and Leman Russ was so badly wounded that he was delirious and babbling about the Wolftime. He made references to having failed in something important... - Guy has written a Primarchs novel, 'Perturabo: The Hammer of Olympia'. It features the early days of his upbringing by the Tyrant of Lochos, and also his vengeful decimation of the populace once they rebel against the Imperium later on. - Gav is writing a Primarchs novel focusing on Lorgar. - David is planning a Primarchs novel focusing on Ferrus Manus. - I announced my SMB novel 'Slaughter at Giant's Coffin', which while 40k also has many links to the Heresy and particularly the events surrounding the Pharos. Unquote Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4514831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Guy Haley writing Perturabo and that part of Iron Warriors history? Yes, please. That was long overdue. Which David are we talking about with Ferrus Manus? Because David Annandale has a Horus Heresy novel down, but David Guymer stated on various occasions that Ferrus is his favorite Primarch and he'd like to tackle them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4514918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I assume David Guymer, he mentions him earlier in the post. Interesting stuff! Russ' failure perhaps being his hunt for Horus? I'm with DarkChaplain on Perturabo, Olympia is dying to be covered, and I'm stoked for Guy Haley doing it Gav doing Lorgar is an interesting choice, and I haven't read anything by David Guymer, but fresh takes in the HH are always to be welcomed :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4514951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Guess that means Perturabo by Haley will be the 3rd Primarchs novel, out sometime next year. Still think Magnus Limited edition will come out in December. I wonder what Sons of the Forge will be about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4515036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 "Gav gave a reading from 'Corax', from the brand new novella 'Weregeld'. It featured Corax being led by Bjorn through an apparently anonymous warzone to where the VI Legion had built a stronghold from two crashed landing ships. The Space Wolves had been crushed by their MANY enemies (including the Alpha Legion, World Eaters and Thousand Sons) and Leman Russ was so badly wounded that he was delirious and babbling about the Wolftime. He made references to having failed in something important..." Translation: You need 3 legions to beat the puppies In all seriousness though, could this be a dream sequence? If not, having the SW link up with Corax or elements like the Sagyar Mazan makes sense Russ tries to ambush Horus somewhere, he fails, has to retreat, realizes the most effective use of his force is to bolster the Shattered Legions and other loyalist guerilla elements, e.g. Sagyar Mazan perhaps? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4515042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Guy Haley writing Perturabo and that part of Iron Warriors history? Yes, please. That was long overdue. Which David are we talking about with Ferrus Manus? Because David Annandale has a Horus Heresy novel down, but David Guymer stated on various occasions that Ferrus is his favorite Primarch and he'd like to tackle them David Guymer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4515329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I was gonna complain about Gav writing Lorgar, but I'll be the optimist. Hopefully it means someone else will be able to write about Corax or The Lion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4515492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 That's one way to look at it ;) I'm thinking new takes on primarchs than earlier so that's intriguing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4515499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Sons of the Forge is a 50k word short novel. Kyme thought it was a novella but Laurie Goulding corrected him. Think Tallarn: Ironclad. The final Vulkan novel in his trilogy for the Horus Heresy should follow soon after from the looks of it. Nooooo - why Gods of the Warp why I need to suffer another Salamanders book from Kyme Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4515555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Guess that means Perturabo by Haley will be the 3rd Primarchs novel, out sometime next year. Still think Magnus Limited edition will come out in December. I wonder what Sons of the Forge will be about. Guy Haley - doing Perturabo? Hussah - at least some salvation. Sons of the Forge would be about a black black salamander warrior who will kill all sons of horus single-handedly, can shoot thunderbolts from his ass and could burn space ships with his stare. Bow before the lost primarch Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4515560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Graham McNeill just posted that he is currently writing the final scenes of The Crimson King. First half of 2017 seems certain now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4516459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH79 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Quite looking forward to Sons of the Forge (stop throwing things at me lol!). Think Kyme posted in Jan that he was wrestling with it's final draft and it's a stepping stone between Deathfire and the last part of his Heresy Salamanders trilogy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4516780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 With Sons of the Forge coming, I think we'll probably see Promethean Sun and Scorched Earth not being printed in other anthologies, and instead saved up for something like a Sons of Vulkan mainline book along with Sons of the Forge. I'd prefer that over throwing a novella into another anthology like happened recently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4517014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 With Sons of the Forge coming, I think we'll probably see Promethean Sun and Scorched Earth not being printed in other anthologies, and instead saved up for something like a Sons of Vulkan mainline book along with Sons of the Forge. I'd prefer that over throwing a novella into another anthology like happened recently. I think that is precisely what will happen just as it has with Corax...a collection of novellas. I am hoping that will happen with Tallarn as well so we get Executioner and Ironclad in one volume. Had oringally thought they would do this and include the Tallarn related shorts but they have now appeared in an anthology. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4517033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Guess that means Perturabo by Haley will be the 3rd Primarchs novel, out sometime next year. Still think Magnus Limited edition will come out in December. I wonder what Sons of the Forge will be about. Perty by Haley? I'm buying it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4517143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 With Sons of the Forge coming, I think we'll probably see Promethean Sun and Scorched Earth not being printed in other anthologies, and instead saved up for something like a Sons of Vulkan mainline book along with Sons of the Forge. I'd prefer that over throwing a novella into another anthology like happened recently. I think that is precisely what will happen just as it has with Corax...a collection of novellas. I am hoping that will happen with Tallarn as well so we get Executioner and Ironclad in one volume. Had oringally thought they would do this and include the Tallarn related shorts but they have now appeared in an anthology. Well, they only collected The Eagle's Talon and Iron Corpses in anthologies so far. Everything prefixed with "Tallarn:" is still up. Executioner, Ironclad, Siren and Witness. Hopefully there'll be one more short story to round it off. I think there's room for something else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4517323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Guess that means Perturabo by Haley will be the 3rd Primarchs novel, out sometime next year. Still think Magnus Limited edition will come out in December. I wonder what Sons of the Forge will be about. Magnus LE is confirmed for January, which would mean a general HB release for April if they continue the pattern set by previous releases. As for Sons of The Forge - from the BL Coming Soon page: THE STORY Charged with a solemn duty by the primarch himself, Forgefather T’kell of the Salamanders prepares for what may well be his final journey. Along with a chosen few of the Legion’s elite Firedrakes, he must bear the last seven of Vulkan’s greatest weapons away to the secret vault known as the Wrought, putting them forever beyond the reach of treacherous enemy and well-intentioned ally alike. But word has already spread of these legendary artefacts, and there are many who would see T’kell’s endeavour fail for their own gain – the Salamanders must remain true, no matter what horrors they might face... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319915-horus-heresy-release-dates-confirmed/page/9/#findComment-4523319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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