The Legion For You: Part Two, Electric Boogaloo!

[Nuriel-666]

Thank you for the answers, especially you noble Lord Thorn and Viridia! Actually, 1d4chan was one of the first places that I've visited ;) 

About my eagerness to use Dark Vengence set, it's because (shame on me!) I didn't realize that GW has released such sweet, sweet deal in form of Betreyal at Calth. It's a pity that it doesn't include MK III armour variants  which are much more fitting for Iron Warriors and Death Guard (which probably match the closest my playstyle in form of tough, foot slogging gunline). But I've heard that this may change soon ;)

[Charlo]

Okay - I'm going to bite at this topic again because I've found myself completely dumbfounded when it comes to the ultimate question...

 

I just can't decide. All I know is that I've gotten it down to 3-4:

 

Death Guard: My original choice and what I ended up buying a fair few things for, but have otherwise fallen out of favor with them recently. Rules are great but I just can't make a list I like. The lack of recent Heresy fluff is also a bit disheartening. I dig the grim resolve and power of the infantryman that Mortarion belives in, but sadly It doesn't work that well in list hammering and on the table... I love the chemical warfare aspect of things too but after getting a good chunk into Angel's of Caliban I can't help but think of the...

 

Dark Angels: The Dreadwing have hooked me in HARD. While they have no rules right now, when they do I know i'll love them. All that crazy terran tech is great - even just the beginnings of it with the Acid Shells and Plasma Repeaters have me loving it. Plus I like all the knightly stuff and the Lion is one of my favourite Primarchs. The Black/metal scheme is awesome too. Ironwing is also really nice and fluffy for fielding tanks, which I only seem to like the idea of if it's with the DA. If I did these guys however, I'd probably start off running Dreadwing count as...

 

Blackshields: Outlanders being survivors of the Rangdan Wars with the Nemean leading them. Rules are sweet and I can go deep in customization and modelling then slowly diverse into the DA with the right scheme (keep it minimal). Allied DA would give me the Acid Shells I crave too.

 

Then every week another legion takes my heart for a hot minute, be it SoH/ NL/ IF/ IH or even RG D:

 

Argh.

[Doctor Perils]

Okay - I'm going to bite at this topic again because I've found myself completely dumbfounded when it comes to the ultimate question...

 

I just can't decide. All I know is that I've gotten it down to 3-4:

 

Death Guard: My original choice and what I ended up buying a fair few things for, but have otherwise fallen out of favor with them recently. Rules are great but I just can't make a list I like. The lack of recent Heresy fluff is also a bit disheartening. I dig the grim resolve and power of the infantryman that Mortarion belives in, but sadly It doesn't work that well in list hammering and on the table... I love the chemical warfare aspect of things too but after getting a good chunk into Angel's of Caliban I can't help but think of the...

 

Dark Angels: The Dreadwing have hooked me in HARD. While they have no rules right now, when they do I know i'll love them. All that crazy terran tech is great - even just the beginnings of it with the Acid Shells and Plasma Repeaters have me loving it. Plus I like all the knightly stuff and the Lion is one of my favourite Primarchs. The Black/metal scheme is awesome too. Ironwing is also really nice and fluffy for fielding tanks, which I only seem to like the idea of if it's with the DA. If I did these guys however, I'd probably start off running Dreadwing count as...

 

Blackshields: Outlanders being survivors of the Rangdan Wars with the Nemean leading them. Rules are sweet and I can go deep in customization and modelling then slowly diverse into the DA with the right scheme (keep it minimal). Allied DA would give me the Acid Shells I crave too.

 

Then every week another legion takes my heart for a hot minute, be it SoH/ NL/ IF/ IH or even RG D:

 

Argh.

You seem to have thought out quite a few plans for the Dark Angels already, so I'd run with that if I were you. You'll be able to run your Dreadwing models as counts-as Blackshields of course, however, beware that there are restrictions on allies with Blackshields.

 

What bits had you got for the Death Guard, I can't remember. I'm sure you'll find a way of converting most of it ;)

[Cryptix]

I have a couple to choose from

 

Salamanders - My 40k Space Marine army, so I can proxy some models.

 

Alpha Legion - The most interesting, and the Coils of the Hydra is awesome with its Rewards of Loyalty

 

Sons of Horus - Dude-spams with the best of them, and Reaver Squads are awesome with ALL DA POWAH FISTS

 

Ultramarines - Fulementarus. 'Nough said.

[Doctor Perils]

Ultramarines - Fulementarus. 'Nough said.

Hey, if the Fulmentari are the only reason you're interested in Ultras, have a look at the legion Guilliman stole them from: Iron Warriors.

 

Otherwise, what's your prefered play style, which do you prefer in fluff and colours? Many say that the choice of rules is secondary to the feel of a Legion, as the rules balance shifts any time a new release comes out, but the way the legion feels to you will always remain.

[Cryptix]

For colors, I prefer dark and green. For feel...I prefer like a lot of dudes protecting an elite inner force.

 

Also my love of flamers is greater than a sisters.

[Spinsanity]

Sigh, I'm back here again... I had thought the Deathwatch release would have me hyped for 40k again, but then some of the absurdity of their rules has me so disapointed that I'm feeling pulled back towards the previous decamillenium... (Not that I was hoping for OP rules, jus trules that made sense)

 

Anyway, here are my recurrent ideas, while I still wait for my hobby-cave to be ready (recently moved to a new house and the SO had quite a few things she needed me to take care of before I could consider settling into my little corner of the basement).

 

1. XIII : I'd been eyeing them for a while, and ever since Hyperion showed us his incredible Field Police unit I've wanted to do a Vigil Opertii Mission force with Field Police marines and allied Arbites

 

2. V, IX or XIX : A renegade force from one of the loyalist Legions has long been on my mind too, unfortunately I can't figure out which of these 3 I'd prefer...

 

3. X : I like the possible tie-ins with 40k; a Clan Atraxii/Atropos company force provide a nice link to the Sons of Medusa, and are a good excuse to field an allied Mech allied force. Plus I doubt I've ever seen IH with green accents (red being so popular).

 

I'd be tempted to work on a Boarding-specialists force, since I tend to prefer dreads over tanks...

 

Not sure why I'm posting this here, just venting I guess, since I doubt any suggestion I receive will manage to sway me one way or another more succesfully than I've managed to myself

[Terminus]

I have a couple to choose from

 

Salamanders - My 40k Space Marine army, so I can proxy some models.

 

Alpha Legion - The most interesting, and the Coils of the Hydra is awesome with its Rewards of Loyalty

 

Sons of Horus - Dude-spams with the best of them, and Reaver Squads are awesome with ALL DA POWAH FISTS

 

Ultramarines - Fulementarus. 'Nough said.

Fulmentarus are the worst, Reavers are outclassed, Coils requires big games and a plan.  With all the Legions in a pretty solid place compared to each other, rather than going off what you think is most powerful, I would suggest going off overall theme of the army, and if they have any Rites that you particularly like.

Edited August 10, 2016 by Terminus

[Charlo]

 

I have a couple to choose from

 

Salamanders - My 40k Space Marine army, so I can proxy some models.

 

Alpha Legion - The most interesting, and the Coils of the Hydra is awesome with its Rewards of Loyalty

 

Sons of Horus - Dude-spams with the best of them, and Reaver Squads are awesome with ALL DA POWAH FISTS

 

Ultramarines - Fulementarus. 'Nough said.

Fulmentarus are the worst, Reavers are outclassed, Coils requires big games and a plan.  With all the Legions in a pretty solid place compared to each other, rather than going off what you think is most powerful, I would suggest going off overall theme of the army, and if they have any Rites that you particularly like.

 

Aye this. Plus make a few lists in battle scribe and find something like like at the 2500/3k level. You can love your legion loads but still not want to do them as you just can't make a list that you like (like my DG......)

[Black_out]

Guys....I never thought I'd catch myself in here looking for some input...but here I am.

 

First things first, I LOVE my VIIIth legion. They're not going anywhere and are definitely the traitor army for me. That being said, they're a traitor army...and I've always favored loyalists. So, in the spirit of symmetry, I want to start collecting a loyalist force (I always planned on this).

 

So right now my choices are of course torn between 3 unreleased legions.

 

Space Woves: the 30k equivalent of actual Vikings in space, not the wolfy wolfy wolf wolf crap they crammed down our throats with 40k. Love their color, the dark grey looks sweet and it's not so basic as to be boring. I love beards, axes, close combat-all these things.

 

Dark Angels: they were my 40k first love and still hold a very special place in my heart. The Lion may be my favorite primarch and I love the knightly aspect the legion has (hopefully their units will reflect that). I also like the symmetry playing DA would have with already having an NL army-hated enemies, why not. The colors are my issue however, black armor is not my strong suit and always feel it looks super flat, that would make them boring looking and I don't want that.

 

Blood Angels: another beloved legion specializing in close combat. The red armor would be a great pop of color since an airbrush can knock it out in no time. Sanguinius is just awesome as most of us will a agree and, to me, is the mirror of Curze. The BA in my mind are the closest, opposite, legion to the NL. Plus the delicious irony of both primarchs having seen their deaths and accepted them is hard to pass up.

 

The issue, of course, is that not a one of these legions has any rules yet. Which really sucks because I like all their fluff. SW would be the logical next release so who knows when the other 2 will be out *sigh* without special units and rites it's hard to actually make a decision so this post may actually be meaningless?

[Doctor Perils]

 

I can see how using Blood Angels would be a fun mirror of the Night Lords: not only have they got very contrasting colours, their iconography is similar, but just slightly different enough that the irony becomes all the more apparent. Plus, it seems that some blood angels have an affinity for axes (look at that monster Astorath wields). However, if you field a lot of jump infantry with your Night Lords and you decide to do Blood Angels, I'd try to find another aspect of the red host to represent.

 

For Dark Angels, I think different armour colours should be possible thanks to the different Wings. Plus you can still experiment with some green or red edge highlighting.

 

Space Wolves? The Viking version? Well they're awesome!!! Always were, always will be, and don't let anybody sway you on that!

 

 

Tbh, it doesn't sound like you have any inherent preference to one legion over the other (which surprisingly enough in this thread often stands out when people ask which Legion they should do - it must be a subconscious decision they have already made but haven't realised it yet.) => Have you considered a Shattered Legion force? I must say, Wolves along Dark Angels, or a combined Angels of Death army could both be quite fun.

[Black_out]

 

 

I can see how using Blood Angels would be a fun mirror of the Night Lords: not only have they got very contrasting colours, their iconography is similar, but just slightly different enough that the irony becomes all the more apparent. Plus, it seems that some blood angels have an affinity for axes (look at that monster Astorath wields). However, if you field a lot of jump infantry with your Night Lords and you decide to do Blood Angels, I'd try to find another aspect of the red host to represent.

 

For Dark Angels, I think different armour colours should be possible thanks to the different Wings. Plus you can still experiment with some green or red edge highlighting.

 

Space Wolves? The Viking version? Well they're awesome!!! Always were, always will be, and don't let anybody sway you on that!

 

 

Tbh, it doesn't sound like you have any inherent preference to one legion over the other (which surprisingly enough in this thread often stands out when people ask which Legion they should do - it must be a subconscious decision they have already made but haven't realised it yet.) => Have you considered a Shattered Legion force? I must say, Wolves along Dark Angels, or a combined Angels of Death army could both be quite fun.

At least my indecision is plain to see. I truly am torn between the 3 and they all have their pros and cons!

 

Your point on BA is interesting, my NL run almost completely without jump infantry (unless Curze is on the table) so that could be another funny little irony. The cracked reflection of the two really does have a nice feel to it. But as I said, the other two legions are just SO COOL. I need more rules FW!!

 

I've never really considered shattered legions nor looked at their rules...might be time to investigate further!

[Xenith]

Not so much a "Which Legion" question, but a "What colour Alphas" question:

Semi-official scheme of metallic blue/green:

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/Mechxen/Alpha%20Legion/Veteran%20Tactical%20I/2015-12-12%2018.38.58_zpsmripmhsm.jpg

Halved

Thoughts?

[Spinsanity]

Halved

Thoughts?

Personally, I like the halved "Omega Marines" scheme. Was always how I'd have done Alpha Legion. Edited August 21, 2016 by Player 404

[Operative]

Personally halved is my favourite, but I would add a colour that made them easily recognisable as alpha legion and then do a half and half with the arms and helmet whilst leaving the body with the unifying colour. Just my thoughts.

 

E.g Dark blue body with half and half arms and helmet

[Doctor Perils]

Personally halved is my favourite, but I would add a colour that made them easily recognisable as alpha legion and then do a half and half with the arms and helmet whilst leaving the body with the unifying colour. Just my thoughts.

 

E.g Dark blue body with half and half arms and helmet

Ooof three main colours can look cluttered very easily, I'd try it out on the B&C painters first if I were you.

 

Halved looks good, but as Operative says, possibly use some more "Alpha Legion Colours", from green/blue/turquoise to purple :tu:

[Xenith]

Sotek green helmet stripe?

[A D-B]

Not so much a "Which Legion" question, but a "What colour Alphas" question:

Semi-official scheme of metallic blue/green:

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/Mechxen/Alpha%20Legion/Veteran%20Tactical%20I/2015-12-12%2018.38.58_zpsmripmhsm.jpg

Halved

Thoughts?

Personal bias up front here - I'm really not a fan of the metallic Legion colours, and my least-fave is the Alpha Legion one - but I adore the halved scheme. I'd definitely add the Sotek Green helmet stripe as Xenith said, or maybe a couple of Alpha-ish symbols/runes on the shins or vambraces in the same colour. Like branding, marking their allegiance.

[Xenith]

I'd definitely add the Sotek Green helmet stripe as Xenith said, or maybe a couple of Alpha-ish symbols/runes on the shins or vambraces in the same colour. Like branding, marking their allegiance.

What of this - I started playing around with freehand and technical paints last night:

Face-paint to come.

Even if I don't go with this for my Alphas, I'll be painting up a squad of MkIV for my 40k Omegas, as they look awesome in the B/W scheme.

Edited August 22, 2016 by Xenith

[Doctor Perils]

Oh ho! Omegas on the brow? Twin Xs on the Shoulderpads? facepaints to come? You, sir, have my attention ;)

[Xenith]

No insignia on the side that faces the enemy

[Commissar Ibram Gaunt]

Hi all. So I have recently jumped back into the hobby and started collecting prices to start a Legionew. I have narrowed my choices down to 2 legions, the imperial fists or space Wolves. Each has their pros and cons and I thought I had decided on fists unail I saw the new sweet transfer sheet and Russ.

 

Now I have a hard time deciding between the two.

 

The imperial fists appeal to me because of their high number of Terran marines, their pivotal role in the defence of Terra and their successor chapters stories. Though I do not have an airbrush and wonder about yellow.

 

Space Wolves appeal to my love of Nordic history and Vikings which also links to my heritage. The colour scheme I have in my mind for them is something I really like. But they were not there for the battle of terra?

 

Any thoughts on either would be really appreciated.

[Xenith]

Yellow is super easy with the yellow base paints , there might even be a yellow spray, either gw or army painter.

 

Wolves will be easier to paint grey. But more painted details. Fists harder to paint but fewer details.

 

I always think fists look better.

 

Paint a tester Maine from each.

[Commissar Ibram Gaunt]

Yellow is super easy with the yellow base paints , there might even be a yellow spray, either gw or army painter.

 

Wolves will be easier to paint grey. But more painted details. Fists harder to paint but fewer details.

 

I always think fists look better.

 

Paint a tester Maine from each.

Yes i have heard that yellow is far easier from several people now. I think i am really leaning towards Imperial Fists.

[Xenith]

 

Yellow is super easy with the yellow base paints , there might even be a yellow spray, either gw or army painter.

 

Wolves will be easier to paint grey. But more painted details. Fists harder to paint but fewer details.

 

I always think fists look better.

 

Paint a tester Maine from each.

Yes i have heard that yellow is far easier from several people now. I think i am really leaning towards Imperial Fists.

 

 

Check out Dos's tutorial here.

 

I painted a test mini ages ago that was simply Averland Sunset with a sepia wash.

 

I'd now do a mix of 50:50 gryphonne sepia to lahmian medium. Adding Lahmian to my washes was a real revelation!

 

Slight highlight with a bone colour, call it a day.