Prot Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Guys, this has been released this past weekend and I was hoping to get your feedback on it. I want to pick it up because it is probably Graham's last significant impact on the storyline now that he's gone from Black Library. What do you guys think? Do we get some real dirt on the Alpha Legion? Did you enjoy the story? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Yes it's a great book with some nice twists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4348332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izlude Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I highly recommend the book. If you liked reading about the adventures of Cadmus Tyro/Wayland/Sharrowkyn from Angel Exterminatus you will enjoy this book. I am not a big Shattered legion fan but I thought this book was definitely better than most. It definitely had good AL stuff and I was surprised at the end. Without giving away spoilers: -It definitely helps to read one of the short stories called Kryptos. I believe it is in Legacies of Betrayal which helps give background on an important device in the book -Wayland and sharrowkyn duo: I personally enjoy the antics of the salty Wayland and ass-kicker Sharrowkyn. I know alot of people hate his mary sue like abilities but I personally like him. In general (my opinion of course) the traitor characters seem to be more badass. Anyways if you are not a fan of this duo the book may not be for you although they are not featured as heavily -AL: I'll be honest, I know their whole thing with being sneaky and , sometimes I feel like authors try too hard to make them so evasive I actually have a hard time following what is going on. Luckily in this book this is not as much as the case but the scene with Tarso and his discovery was confusing for me. Overall Highly recommend the book, you could probably read it in one day and the end has a nice nod to Crimson King (at least I think it does). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4348375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Graham's still writing for Black Library, just very infrequently. He is still working on The Crimson King and even a sequel to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4348385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 For me, Seventh Serpent was okay, but not great. The Alpha Legion twists and turns are confusing first time around, but can give it some good re-read value, but aside from these I found the writing pretty predictable, and Sharrowkyn is well into creator's pet/Mary Sue territory now. I didn't mind him in Angel Exterminatus, but here I cringed more than once at his antics. If you're a big fan of the Sisypheum lot this might be worth a go, otherwise I'd say pass until it comes out in a collection within the main series. A bit more of the Alpha Legion's progressing story within the Heresy is shown, but nothing truly shattering or in great detail. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4348491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Graham's still writing for Black Library, just very infrequently. He is still working on The Crimson King and even a sequel to it. Ah okay. Good to know. For me, Seventh Serpent was okay, but not great. The Alpha Legion twists and turns are confusing first time around, but can give it some good re-read value, but aside from these I found the writing pretty predictable, and Sharrowkyn is well into creator's pet/Mary Sue territory now. I didn't mind him in Angel Exterminatus, but here I cringed more than once at his antics. If you're a big fan of the Sisypheum lot this might be worth a go, otherwise I'd say pass until it comes out in a collection within the main series. A bit more of the Alpha Legion's progressing story within the Heresy is shown, but nothing truly shattering or in great detail. Too bad we don't get any real depth in the Legion from this one, but as Izlude mentions it does include some characters I really enjoy. Thanks for the feedback guys. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4348968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Izlude, I to feel I'm one of the few who doesn't mind Sharrowkyn ands his antics. Quality of the writing aside, I don't see much difference between him and some of the more "overpowered" traitors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4349585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 It's a very good novella, only second to the 'Serpent beneath', which is number one, because it's a masterpiece Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4350923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Izlude, I to feel I'm one of the few who doesn't mind Sharrowkyn ands his antics. Quality of the writing aside, I don't see much difference between him and some of the more "overpowered" traitors. I didn't have a big issue with him in TSS either. He was trained by the Shadowmasters, so he's basically what you'd expect Mor Deythan to be. I don't see people complaining nonstop about them, and they even have ForgeWorld miniatures, a short story and appearances elsewhere. It makes perfect sense for Sharrowkyn to be wary of the potential traitors. He's not an Iron Hand, and naturally suspicious. Unlike the others, he doesn't feel an emotional attachment to finding a long lost brother, he can assess the situation without the same baggage. And it isn't like the Salamander wasn't worried as well, or that some of the Hands didn't have reservations of their own but pushed them aside over their reunion and wishful thinking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4351823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 What Dark Chaplain said - 100% Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320864-the-seventh-serpent-goes-mainstream/#findComment-4353998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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