Thoughts on the Fury Interceptor? Forgeworld wish listing..

[GhostMalone]

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The Fury Interceptor was first developed by the Mechanicum during the last years of theEmperor's Great Crusade in the late 30th Millennium. The craft was designed to replace the aging Wrath Starfighter that was the most widely used starfighter by the Imperium at that time. The Fury was easier to produce, handled more smoothly by its pilots, and suffered from less technical malfunctions. However, the more veteran pilots in the Imperial Army Fleet still preferred the Wrath, seeing it as a finer instrument of void war over the much more "sterile" Fury. By the time of the Horus Heresy the Fury had become the more common starfighter and over the course of the next ten thousand standard years the Fury would become the most common Attack Craft used by the Imperial Navy.

welcome everyone to this civil discussion on the wish listing & eventuality of the Fury Interceptor. Now for those of you that know I've been looking into the marauder variants of super heavy aircraft and it occurred to me what about the Fury? Now the fact that the fire raptor was a single line in the background and got a model and the Stormbird is being released any day why shouldn't the Solar Auxillia and Imperial Army get a super heavy flyer?

Now looking at it the fluff is open to these being used and size isn't an issue for reproduction.

 

Like most Imperial vehicles and voidcraft there exist several different patterns, marks, and variants of the of the Fury Interceptor, with the largest of them reaching up to sixty or seventy metres in length and the smallest being close to forty metres. The Fury's size is such that a wing of twenty Furies takes up the same amount of space aboard a starship as a wing of forty of the Adeptus Astartes'Thunderhawk Gunships.

so with reproduction and scale addressed what do you think? Is this model a good idea for forgeworld to invest in? Would you purchase it? Does the existing army lists need to be expanded and new units like this introduced? And how far should we keep expanding the game?

Now remember civil discussion should pertain to said conversations and not off topic .

-Kurama

[Frater Cornelius]

Well, it is a void craft. Is it capable of fighting that close to the surface? And if so, how big would it be? Fire Raptor sized?

 

The rules would probably include Super Sonic and given the amount of guns, it must be Super-Heavy to fire all of them.

 

But the main question is why is it necessary to have one? The Imperium has adequate aircraft to fight on the planet, so why withdrawing fighters from space to fight on the surface. Okay, sure, once you have orbital superiority, some fighters can come down to help or act as escorts for drop ships. But being used in regular engagements by the book? I don't think that's effective.

[GhostMalone]

Fair enough but as its stated they are of varying size smallest being 40m so I'd say scale wise it would be thunderhawk scale, if your invading a planet from orbit it would make sense that any atmospheric capable attack craft would be supporting the initial deployment. I believe that if a stormbird or thunderhawk are capable of void and atmospheric entry that the Fury should be able to similarly.

 

As its more Assault capable I believe it would be a super fast flyer used for strafing runs and would really be apocalypse sized game only and be pushing the 1000 points mark.

 

From the artwork and the description it can also be used for scouting etc, but mainly would be an orbital Assault based weapon so no hover mode etc.

[Jerichus]

That thing looks killer; and I agree with you the Auxilia and Militia need some super-heavy loving. We've seen voidcraft as in-game units before(thunderbolt, the Nightwing & Vampires for the Eldar, the Hell-[blank] line of chaos fighters, even the caestus for the SM).

 

I'd imagine it might be a good idea to represent the heavy non-astartes forces when they get to a big event like the leadup to Terra or the battle of Tallarn. Either to indicate the all-out scrambling of the former or the navy backup to the tank battle of the latter(what's a good tank battle without a little aerial dogfight?).

 

As to what it could do? I'd imagine it'd be cool to have it be similar to a Vulture, only super-sized. a combination of vehicle weapons on multiple hardpoints that could let it be anything from a super-heavy hunter to a bomber. It's position as the main fighter of the 30k navy means it would be super versatile in it's usage.

 

I think it has merit as a flexible super-heavy flier that fills the gap as a generalist to the other two navy specialist super-heavies.

[GhostMalone]

^^^My thinking exactly^^^

 

It would open up more versatile lists and allow for more variety on the battlefield, currently the marines hold the most of the aerial units in the setting and it would be good to see the Traitors and loyalists bringing in all the resources they could muster. Not only would this fill a void in the units available but would act as a great centerpiece and allow a full orbital based army auxilia force using arvus lighters, Avenger Strike Fighters and thunderbolts.

[Leif Bearclaw]

That thing looks killer; and I agree with you the Auxilia and Militia need some super-heavy loving. We've seen voidcraft as in-game units before(thunderbolt, the Nightwing & Vampires for the Eldar, the Hell-[blank] line of chaos fighters, even the caestus for the SM).

 

All but one of those aren't void craft. The assault ram is the only one of those intended for void combat, the rest are primarily atmospheric craft. Thunderbolts can be used in void operations thanks to their rocket engine, but it is not their intended function and they're distinctly worse at it than actual void fighters (like the Fury). The Nightwing is not a void fighter, the Eldar fly Darkstar fighters in space. I'm also unaware of Vampires ever being used for void combat, though they are indeed capable of moving between void and atmosphere. Likewise, I'm never seen the Xana II chaos planes being referred to as either Void Capable, or used for void war, Chaos using Swiftdeath fighters and Doomfire bombers in space combat.

 

That said, atmosphere-modified Furies do exist, they crop up in Execution Hour. Though this was before FFG enlarged them, as in that book they were 2 man fighters, far closer to something like a Thunderbolt than the Marauder scale (going by that nose lascannon turret) implied by that picture, so who knows now. That said, I would assume they're not ideal for that role, compared to dedicated Navy atmospheric craft, otherwise Furies would be a standard feature of Imperial air war, and they're not.

 

So no, I don't think we should see a FW Fury. I don't get the 'need' for another super heavy flyer, 'because Marines get one/two' not being a legit justification imo. I'd much rather FW use their resources for something more usable, like regular tanks and planes, rather than another super heavy boondoggle.

[GhostMalone]

Well there's never a need for anything we don't need to keep expanding the Horus Heresy we font need variants on Weapons we don't need half the stuff we've currently got... but it's not about need this is simply a question about something that's in our fluff and lore and if we'd get a potential new model and if so what we would like to see. Some people may think it's a waste of time and resources but others may not and it's fair if you feel that way.

 

I personally think I want one not that I need one and I know there are others out there that feel the same.