Spanish_Muffin Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 **Legio Cybernetica** Version 3 [Most recent, Posted edited with changes suggested in thread]HQ1 Archmagos Dominus (180)-Mech Protectiva, Cyber-familiar, Abeyant-Mechinator Array, Augury ScannerLOW1 Atrapos w/ Optiks (445)Heavy1 Thanatar Class Siege-automata (300)- enhanced targeting array; Paragon of Metal Troops2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (300) -2× darkfire cannon; enhanced targeting array -4x flamer2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (240)-2x mauler cannon; enhanced targeting array3 Thallax Cohorts (165)-1x Photon Thruster-1x Heavy Chainblade3 Thallax Cohorts (145)-1x Phased-plasma fusil3 Thallax Cohorts (145)-1x Phased-plasma fusil20 Tech-Thrall (80)-Rite of Pure Thoughts2000 pts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbiter Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm new to Mechanicum also), but can't you only take Paragon of Metal on a single unit in your army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4358915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish_Muffin Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm new to Mechanicum also), but can't you only take Paragon of Metal on a single unit in your army? You are probably very right. I just got my book today, and tossed together a rough army list to figure out which models to buy in my initial order. I thought that any model running as a 1 model unit could take it, but I'll have to read through it more carefully and find out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4358922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish_Muffin Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm new to Mechanicum also), but can't you only take Paragon of Metal on a single unit in your army? And looks like you are correct, and I will alter my list accordingly. Thanks for your help, great catch on the rule!! "a single battle-automata maniple consisting of a single model." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4358935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogglesDown Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I would see if you can find a way to fit a mechinator array on your archmagos. Probably change out the photon thruster for it as you will want to be using Cybertheurgy or battlesmith instead of shooting. Mechinator array and battlesmith is on page 112. Cybertheugy is on page 22. Welcome to the legio Cybernetica! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish_Muffin Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 I would see if you can find a way to fit a mechinator array on your archmagos. Probably change out the photon thruster for it as you will want to be using Cybertheurgy or battlesmith instead of shooting. Mechinator array and battlesmith is on page 112. Cybertheugy is on page 22. Welcome to the legio Cybernetica! Thanks a lot! I'll take a look and see what I can rejigger for it! Appreciate the pages too! Upgraded Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 **Legio Cybernetica** HQ 1 Archmagos Dominus (180) -Mech Protectiva, Cyber-familiar, Abeyant -Mechinator Array, Augury Scanner LOW 1 Atrapos w/ Optiks (445) Heavy 1 Thanatar Class Siege-automata (300) - enhanced targeting array; Paragon of Metal Troops 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (280) -2× darkfire cannon; enhanced targeting array 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (240) -2x mauler bolt cannon; enhanced targeting array 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (240) -2x mauler bolt cannon; enhanced targeting array 6 Thallax Cohorts (315) -2x Photon-Thrusters; 2x Chainblades 2000 pts Please critique, comment, and let me know how I can make a more effective Legio list! Matter of factly, you have only one scoring unit. Lots of firepower yes, but the lack of scoring units might prove desastrous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish_Muffin Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 **Legio Cybernetica** HQ 1 Archmagos Dominus (180) -Mech Protectiva, Cyber-familiar, Abeyant -Mechinator Array, Augury Scanner LOW 1 Atrapos w/ Optiks (445) Heavy 1 Thanatar Class Siege-automata (300) - enhanced targeting array; Paragon of Metal Troops 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (280) -2× darkfire cannon; enhanced targeting array 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (240) -2x mauler bolt cannon; enhanced targeting array 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (240) -2x mauler bolt cannon; enhanced targeting array 6 Thallax Cohorts (315) -2x Photon-Thrusters; 2x Chainblades 2000 pts Please critique, comment, and let me know how I can make a more effective Legio list! Matter of factly, you have only one scoring unit. Lots of firepower yes, but the lack of scoring units might prove desastrous. Add / drop / change suggestions? I could split the thallax up into two units of 3 with no upgrades. Drop a Castellax unit and add two more units of 3. Gives me 4 scoring units of 3 thallax each, costs me a castellax and 2 photon-thrusters. Worthwhile change? I guess I'm still in the mindset that all units can take objectives in 40k. I forget that only troops can in 30k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish_Muffin Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 **Legio Cybernetica** Version 2 (Please see version 3 for the most up to date) HQ 1 Archmagos Dominus (180) -Mech Protectiva, Cyber-familiar, Abeyant -Mechinator Array, Augury Scanner LOW 1 Atrapos w/ Optiks (445) Heavy 1 Thanatar Class Siege-automata (300) - enhanced targeting array; Paragon of Metal Troops 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (280) -2× darkfire cannon; enhanced targeting array 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (280) -2x darkfire cannon; enhanced targeting array 3 Thallax Cohorts (175) -1x Multi-Melta - Destructor Augment 3 Thallax Cohorts (170) -1x Photon Thruster -2x Heavy Chainblade 3 Thallax Cohorts (170) -1x Photon Thruster -2x Heavy Chainblade 2000 pts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogglesDown Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 You have a lot of AT, but not much volume of fire. You might struggle if they bring more boys than toys. You could consider: One squad of darkfire castellax and the atrapos for heavy armour. Darkfire castellax also like to have flamers since they don't really want to be in bolter range and benefit from the flamers in overwatch. One squad of castellax with mauler bolt cannons and two squads of thallax with phase plasma for s6 ap3 marine and light transport killing. You can add destructor if you have points to spare. And a swing squad of thallax with your weapon of choice. Some people like deepstriking multi melta thallax to hunt rear and side armour. Thanatar for basically any target not a flyer. Consider how you are going to handle close combat. You don't really have anything that you can use for speed bumps or counter assualt. All of your bots want to be stomping forward guns a blazing instead of being trapped in combat. This will likely stay the case until we get models for Ursarax or the other unreleased cc bot. You could try a unit of Scyllax instead of a thallax squad but their reception was lukewarm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish_Muffin Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 You have a lot of AT, but not much volume of fire. You might struggle if they bring more boys than toys. You could consider: One squad of darkfire castellax and the atrapos for heavy armour. Darkfire castellax also like to have flamers since they don't really want to be in bolter range and benefit from the flamers in overwatch. One squad of castellax with mauler bolt cannons and two squads of thallax with phase plasma for s6 ap3 marine and light transport killing. You can add destructor if you have points to spare. And a swing squad of thallax with your weapon of choice. Some people like deepstriking multi melta thallax to hunt rear and side armour. Thanatar for basically any target not a flyer. Consider how you are going to handle close combat. You don't really have anything that you can use for speed bumps or counter assualt. All of your bots want to be stomping forward guns a blazing instead of being trapped in combat. This will likely stay the case until we get models for Ursarax or the other unreleased cc bot. You could try a unit of Scyllax instead of a thallax squad but their reception was lukewarm. Sorry, just to clarify on the advise you've provided: So, taking your suggestions as far as the list stands, I should consider; -adding flamers to the darkfire castellax - dropping darkfire from one castellax unit and run them with mauler - dropping the photon thrusters and chainblades from two groups of thallax and add phased plasma fusils to both groups - (I already have a deep striking Multi-Melta thallax team gear to go in the list as per your last suggestion) If that's it, should be simple enough, gear changes are pretty easy! Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish_Muffin Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 **Legio Cybernetica** Version 3 HQ 1 Archmagos Dominus (180) -Mech Protectiva, Cyber-familiar, Abeyant -Mechinator Array, Augury Scanner LOW 1 Atrapos w/ Optiks (445) Heavy 1 Thanatar Class Siege-automata (300) - enhanced targeting array; Paragon of Metal Troops 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (300) -2× darkfire cannon; enhanced targeting array -4x flamer 2 Castellax Class Battle-automata (240) -2x mauler cannon; enhanced targeting array 3 Thallax Cohorts (165) -1x Photon Thruster -1x Heavy Chainblade 3 Thallax Cohorts (145) -1x Phased-plasma fusil 3 Thallax Cohorts (145) -1x Phased-plasma fusil 20 Tech-Thrall (80) -Rite of Pure Thoughts 2000 pts ______________________ Made those changes. Got two units of Thallax with marine killers, and another unit with terminator eliminators. Added 20 Tech-Thrall to absorb any melee threat so I can reposition my robots away from them, and add another scoring unit or bullet sponge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogglesDown Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Looks good to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish_Muffin Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Looks good to me. Thanks for all your help Goggles, Wolfbites, and Unknown Legionnaire. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to help me out, and welcome me to the Legio and to 30k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4359691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 As someone who will be coming to legio cybernetica soon I like this list and will be doing very similar I think. Thanks for sharing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321265-legio-cybernetica-w-atrapos-2000pts/#findComment-4360059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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