The Grim Badger Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Hi folks! Just trying to find rules clarification for putting Primarchs into Dreadclaw drop pods. I assume its possible, but if anyone can help me out with the exact rules allowing / disallowing it that would be grand. Many thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Take one in fast attack, stick a Primarch in it. It's just a transport, there's nothing explicitly disallowing Bulky units or Characters joined to a unit from entering one. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4454992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Not sure why it'd be disallowed. He's a model and they are a transport? Unless I'm missing something. Only difference is hel take up more space! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4454993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 They are generally extremely bulky so take up three spaces but other then that all cool! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4455042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Badger Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Cool :) I think the confusion came up due to Forge World's take on Legion Drop Pods not being able to take Terminator armoured models from their FAQs, and the Dreadclaw being a similar size. For reference: Q: Can a Legion Drop Pod transport a Primarch, or a character equipped with Terminator armour who has joined a unit? What about Bulky, Very Bulky or Extremely Bulky models? A: Unless specified, only Infantry models other than those equipped with jump packs or Terminator armour may ever be transported in a Legion Drop Pod. As an exception to this, Rapier units may be transported in Legion Drop Pod based upon certain Rites of War (see future publications), but may not otherwise regularly take them as dedicated transports. If an eligible unit takes a Legion Drop Pod as a dedicated transport, it must begin the game in reserve inside the drop pod. Independent characters and attached models such as Apothecaries may be transported in a Legion Drop Pod, so long as they are eligible (see above), designated as being attached to the squad before the game begins and there is sufficient space for them remaining in the drop pod. But there is no mention of Dreadclaws, so one must assume they are exempt. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4455054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Yup and if you want some friends, a command squad is a good idea too. Though be aware a Dreadclaw that contains a Primarch will have "SHOOT ME" written all over it! But they can quite easily survive the S10 hit that comes with a crash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4455137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 They would never suffer a S10 crash, because dreadclaws are effectively never flying. First turn you deep strike in hover mode, second turn you hover so you can cut loose with the unit inside. Follow up turns either dead or flies around roasting things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4456115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Oh I thought the point was to not hover on the drop so people don't just blast you out of the sky. Or do you still only snap shoot hover flyers (brain fuzz) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4456313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 They shoot you normally but you still get a Jink Save since its a Skimmer when in Hover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4456336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Hmm okay then, I thought so. Ty for Clarification. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4456602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Badger Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Now I'm a little confused... you can still disembark the turn it arrives right? i.e. Turn 1 for Drop Pod Assault? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4456821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Only if you take the Khorne Fist formation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4458278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 What? No. You can totally disembark turn 1; you just cant charge. The maib reason noone does that is because theres no point to doing so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4458302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Oh I thought the point was to not hover on the drop so people don't just blast you out of the sky. Or do you still only snap shoot hover flyers (brain fuzz) That would be super sweet, to be able to arrive in a flying Kharybdis or Dreadclaw, then in your subsequent turn enter into hover mode, and discharge its cargo into an assault. The rules for their deep strike specifically prohibit this, and forces you to land in hover mode. It's not too bad, as Slips pointed out, because you can jink for 4+, which stacks with Stealth from Night Fighting, or Shrouded from a Dreadnought Drop Pod. 2+ jink and 5 hull points is why the Kharybdis has always been more survivable and more reliable than the Spartan. And now it's like 100 points cheaper. Scandalous! Only if you take the Khorne Fist formation. Please do not reference 40K rules in 30K, it only confuses people. You can disembark from a dreadclaw if you wish, or stay on board, as long as it is hovering. It arrives from Deep Strike in hover mode, so you can disembark first turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4458307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I thought TGB meant disembark and charge same turn it arrives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324341-primarchs-in-dreadclaws/#findComment-4460593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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