+ The Iron Without - Iron Warriors Painting Contest +

[Doctor Perils]

Berdax fired his volkite charger into the yellow throng - dissolving one of the Marines into a pile of ash - as he retreated past the descending portcullis.Two more of the Fists were crushed beneath the three-ton block of Adamantium-reinforced steel, but that would not slow the Vindicators, advancing from behind the enemy lines.

The Warsmith tasted bitterness,a bitterness that was not entirely due to the fog of fyceline and burnt flesh: the Fourth Legion had fought well today, fought heroically even, despite all the jeers of "Traitor" and "Heretic" that arose from the ranks of the sons of Dorn; yet that would matter not to Berdax's father, the Lord of Iron. No, Perturabo would simply look at the day's tallies, and, should he deem it necessary, punishment would ensue - and punishment always ensued.

He reflected on the glorious days of the Great Crusade, when the Legions fought as true Legions, and regretted the fragmentation of the Iron Warriors: each one of them could be worth ten of the Fists and their successors, and still the numbers would be stacked against the diverse Warbands - and of course, the Fists were worthy foes.

Berdax dismissed the sharp tongues that snackered 'Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows' in his ear, and dreamed of the battles to come - already, he had heard burbles of a new Black Crusade, and felt satisfaction in knowing that he would soon have a chance to redeem himself. He punched the activation rune of the teleportation homer of his Cataphracti plate, and - as the disgustingly familiar tugging and tearing sensation began in his stomach - he stared in defiance at the bore of the Demolisher cannons pointed at the fort's gatehouse. 'I'll be back,' he thought, 'just you wait...'

Dear brothers, this fight is over. We have fought long and hard, and have created new models that would be the pride of any warsmith of the legion. Take a moment to pat yourselves on the back for a job well done - you should be proud of yourselves: I know I'm proud of all of you :P This evening I'll post an update, and hopefully in the next day or two I'll be able to look over each and every vow to make sure that all the points are correctly counted - then, I'll post a final update, along with the achievement badges for each participant that has earned them.

With the fact that I haven't completely tallied up the points in mind, I think it is still fair to assume that the Imperial Fists have beaten us - this time ;). With a higher number of participants and a higher number of revows, this may well have been to be expected - this being their fourth "Expansion", coupled with an earlier announcement date, may also have helped :P The heroes of this event, however, are each and every participant on both sides. Paint has flowed in the name of the paint god, and awesomeness has resulted, both in this thread and in our counterparts'. If you haven't yet had a look at the Imperial Fists' Expansion IV, now's the time; leave some Likes while you're there ;).

Thank you all, for your participation, for your esprit de camaraderie; for your help and your banter. I think you have made this event a success, even if this side of the friendly competition was more modest then our rivals'. I would especially like to thank our friendly neighborhood Dosjetka, as well as Captain Semper, who both inspired this contest. Hopefully, with your blessing, we'll be able to get something like this again together next year and start a new tradition :)

[Commander Dawnstar]

Unfortunately I had it in my head that the deadline was the 4th, not the 3rd. Sorry guys.

 

 

Irrelevant at this point, but my Tyrants are 85-90% as of tonight. Just combi-bolter details, missiles + lenses and base clean-up to go,

[Doctor Perils]

They're looking good to me. Don't worry about finishing late, the important bit is to get great models to showcase and play with

[lokkorex]

Army shot of my vows:

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd366/lokkorex/image_zpsocpmuchl.jpeg

 

Up next:

the cataphractii has been a real pleasure too paint, so i'm gonna increase these two units to ten, and add two more ten-man units with combi-plasma guns and choom, respectively.

Then i'll see about adding another ironclad/siege dreadnought talon, plus a couple of tartaros terminator squads, since the new scarab occult terminators scream "Convert us!" to me!

 

Hopefully i'll have gathered all that until next Loyalty & Treachery, or the next Iron Without.

[Doctor Perils]

When have you ever known me to keep to a deadline

IRON WITHOUT

Member	Vow 1	Vow 2	Vow 3	Vow 4	Vow 5	Vow 6	Vow 7	Total Vowed	Total Completed
Beachymike123	662 C	[/td]						662	662
BolterTama	335 C							335	335
Brightstar	550							550	0
Brother Kortmer	50 C							50	50
Captain Titus	515							515	0
Celtic_cauldron	450 C	432						882	0
conscriptboris	455							455	0
Dantioch	150							150	0
Eldrick Shadowblade	125 C							125	125
gaurdian31	139 C							139	139
Insane Psychopath	580 C	145 C						725	725
Iron Skull Mask	321 C	231 C						552	552
Kierdale	50 C							50	50
KrautScientist	99 C							99	99
Larkyn	412							412	0
lokkorex	315 C	1758 C						2073	2073
Lord Commander Eidolon	40							40	0
Lord Thørn	411 C							411	411
MindOfMetal	320							320	0
Morovir	50 C							50	50
Nemac Vradon	105							105	0
Ninjaman	712 C							712	712
NovaScotius	545							545	0
Scourged	55 C							55	55
Teetengee	50 C							50	50
undeadsoldier	1040 C	1210						2250	0
Uveron	210 C	275 C						485	485
Wayniac	137 C	220 C						357	357

Out Of Competition

Member	Vow 1	Vow 2	Vow 3	Vow 4	Vow 5	Vow 6	Vow 7	Total Vowed	Total Completed
Augustus b’Raass	410							410	0
Insane Psychopath	430 C	110						540	0
Scared to death	310							310	0
Teentengee	155							155	0
The Psycho	165 C							165	165
Warsmith Aznable	345							345	0
Xin Ceithan	60 C							60	60
warboss aidna0510	160						160	0

Over the course of this event, 13 154 points of Iron Warriors were vowed by 28 members (thus vow values averaging at 469.8 points), 8420 of which were completed. Unfortunately, some revowers were unable to complete their subsequent vows, so after penalties, 6930 points are valid, bringing the total completion rate to 52,68% - this is an admirable score, and I applaud you all, even if you were in the end unable to finish on time.

On the Out Of Competition side of things, 8 members made 9 vows. However, only three of these were completed (if I haven't missed any completion posts which is perfectly possible) It isn't a problem, but I wonder what may be the cause? Could it be down to people not being motivated enough, biting off a bit more then they could chew (many of the OOC vowers having made primary IC vows in the IFE4), or real life hitting them?

I have yet to go through all the posts again, so numbers may be susceptible to change slightly.

In any case, Perturabo may be uncaring, but today, his sons have earned the right to be proud of themselves :) Thank you for your participation, and I hope to see more of your stuff here on the B&C in the future :)

Now, if you have the time, I'd like to ask you if you have any feedback on this event, since it's the first time I've done this. Feel free to answer any or all of the following questions, and to add your own remarks:

• On the general running of the event.
• Would you like to participate in something similar next year?
• What you would change to make it smoother running?
• Since Dosjetka has told me he likes to change things up a bit for the IFE, the IFE and the IRON WITHOUT will likely go their own ways next year. Would you like any further IRON WITHOUT contests be led independently, or against a particular sub-forum of the Bolter&Chainsword (or even from other boards on the interwebz, to get some Iron vs. Xenos rivalry?)
• What would you think about a specific theme for another contest? Would you add new thematic bonuses (in the way we had IF trophies this year)?
• Would you like to see certain restrictions on the allowed armies lifted - ie, Daemons were not allowed In Competition this year, should this change for a new edition? I saw quite a few chapter variants on the IF side this year, quite a few of which were DIYs, yet we had comparatively little colour scheme variations here - what criteria would you put down for allowing splinter warbands with different colour schemes? Simply say they should follow a warsmith, be of Iron Warrior geneseed - in which case what would happen to cultists and Daemon Engines?
• What do you think of the idea of the achievement badges - would you add any? change the way it works? etc.
• How would you feel about a weekly update system, were each member would ideally add some WIP shots each week, and if a vow has multiple units everyone could see their progress in the form of a progression bar (for example)?
• Would you stick to a system of vows of a certain number of units, or allow units to be added freely to a general vow?
• How would you feel about asking for a bit of fluff about the warband the vowed units will be joining - could this equate to a points bonus, or an achievement? Same questions with colour schemes (complete with iconography and heraldry explanations as can be found in the HH books), "paint splatter" articles (with a quick explanation of how you apply a colour scheme to a model), tutorial articles for Iron Warrior specific modelling and painting aspects, etc.

If you do answer any of these questions, thanks again :)

Iron Within!

[Iron Skull Mask]

The event was ace! Really fun, even though many frater I'd expected to paint with us painted for the IF. You did an awesome job in running the event, Lord Thorn. I, personally, would definitely be back for more next year, but it would be nice to find a time-slot where no other challenge is taking place with the chaos subforum involved. So, one question remains: how about them victory badges? :)

[Phatsquirre1]

• Would you like to participate in something similar next year?
• What you would change to make it smoother running?

If you do answer any of these questions, thanks again

Iron Within!

I had a great time with the competition, sadly, I found my paintbrushes straying into the realm of the XVth, (as if i'd been psychically compelled...curious). I should hope I'd pass my Deny roll next time so I can stay focused.

That said, maybe a bit more clarity on what you could/couldn't vow. I did want to vow a few castellax and vorax, but never got a clear answer on if they were valid or not, and by the time I saw they were I had already moved on from them. Plus, big stompy robots are such an IW thing. It'd be a shame not to allow them.

Otherwise, thanks for holding such a cool event, and remember, brothers of the IVth- We fight the long war. The battle may be lost, but we shall prevail. Ferrum Honore Veniat

[Teetengee]

I vote for fluff as achievement. The other questions I will have to think more on.

I would love to open up the competition to any unit that either is of Iron Warriors geneseed or identifies as/follows an Iron Warrior.

[Doctor Perils]

Good to hear you enjoyed the event :) also, thanks for the speedy feedback

 

I, personally, would definitely be back for more next year, but it would be nice to find a time-slot where no other challenge is taking place with the chaos subforum involved. So, one question remains: how about them victory badges? :)

I also think that we'd have to find a better timeslot, neither at the same time as the call of chaos, nor at the time of the ETL... that's already six months of the year gone though...

 

I have yet to make the victory/defeat badges, I think I'll have to discuss their general presentation with Dosjetka, but he seems to have a lot on his plate right now.

 

That said, maybe a bit more clarity on what you could/couldn't vow. I did want to vow a few castellax and vorax, but never got a clear answer on if they were valid or not, and by the time I saw they were I had already moved on from them. Plus, big stompy robots are such an IW thing. It'd be a shame not to allow them.

 

Good points. I thought I had answered in the end but the message obviously didn't get through correctly, which indicates not only that there should be a more evident list of what is legal and what isn't, but also that there could be a better presentation of the rules and of the FAQ section.

 

And as you say, us iron warriors like us some stompy robots.

 

I vote for fluff as achievement. The other questions I will have to think more on.

 

I would love to open up the competition to any unit that either is of Iron Warriors geneseed or identifies as/follows an Iron Warrior.

I tend to agree with you on the question of the fluff as an achievement: it gives an incentive to write a bit, but doesn't make the contest a primarily fluff based one either.

 

For the question of the legal units, I feel that you run the risk of losing the flavour of Iron Warriors - after all, according to this definition of your legal units, an army of word bearers and cultists that follow a single Iron Warrior who bested their Dark apostle in single combat would be allowed, but in my view it still isn't truly an iron warrior warband. Of course, this is why I asked for feedback, so that we can discuss these issues :)

 

With the new legion rules out, it should be possible now to differentiate legionaries from others: how about a rule where at least one unit per vow must have either the Legiones Astartes (iron warriors) rule or Veteran of the long war qualifying for IW warband (as per traitor legions supplement)? Or that 25-50% of your combined vow points must come from such units? Then any unit from horus heresy or from codices csm, cd, kdk, ig, mechanicum, knights etc. May be accepted as long as they display marks of allegiance to the appropriate IW grand battalion, grand company or warband? So In the case of your own vows, the chaos marine is obviously an iron warrior as per the *traitor legions* supplement, and your bloodleters display marks of allegiance to the legion in the form of their bionics - as such, your vow is legal. (Just brainstorming here :) )

[lokkorex]

I'd definitely like to participate again in the future, and hopefully more factions will be accepted, like knights and astra militarum.

[Beachymike123]

It was a good event. The timing could have been a bit better spaced after the ETL but that's something to IRON out (made a funny I think- sorry I'm tired, been a very long day). Also I agree that acvepting more monions for the IV Legion would be better and encourage more participants.

But a very good event this year I feel, even if it did happen during me moving places :D . I look forward to the next one where we can show the fools of Dorn how to slam down a painting contest.

Many thanks to all, some great work by all participants as well I feel that is inspiring.

Iron Within, Iron Without.

[Celtic_cauldron]

It was a great event. A shame I wasn't able to complete vow 2 (damn you IRl!). Anyway would be more than happy to see it happen again next year (and have a chance to clean this s.... on my warriors'honour).

 

Sorry again guys. Great job done here and many wonderful minis both in 30K and 40K.

 

Celtic_Cauldron