Anthelios Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 +++ Templarii (2500pts) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (Age of Darkness) ++ + HQ + Legion Centurion [Artificer Armour] ····Consul [Master of Signal] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Sigismund ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Troops + Legion Tactical Squad [19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade] ····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Power Fist] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Templar Brethren [9x Combat Shield, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-vox, 9x Templar Brethren] ····Chapter Champion [Combat Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Elites + Apothecarion Detachment ····Legion Apothecary [Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner] ········Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] Contemptor Dreadnought Talon ····Legion Contemptor Dreadnought [Chainfist with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, Extra Armour, Graviton Gun, Plasma Cannon] Legion Terminator Squad [4x Legion Terminators, 4x Power Fist, Tartaros Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, Teleportation Transponder, 4x Vigil Pattern Storm Shield] ····Legion Terminator Sergeant [Chainfist, Vigil Pattern Storm Shield] ····Legiones Astartes [Legion Specific Rules] + Heavy Support + Deredeo Pattern Dreadnought [Aiolos Missile Launcher] Legion Kharybdis Assault Claw + Legion + Legion Astartes [Loyalist, VII: Imperial Fists] + Lord of War + Cerastus Knight-Atrapos ····Cerastus Knight-Atrapos [Occular Augmetics] * Sigismund joins with apothecary and 10 templar brethren and take Kharybdis. They deep strike via DPA in 1st turn and assault in 2nd turn. Target is opponent warlord. They are Task force of the army. * Master of Signal joins with 20 tactical marines. Their role is backyard object holder. Also MoS can support templar brethren with unlimited range one use bombardment. * Knight-Atrapos go after templar brethren. It's role is second blowing after templar brethen DPA. At 1st turn, it runs to enemy line and endure with Ion-flare shield. Since 2nd turn, it shoot anything in sight with gravition weapon and lasscutter. But I'm not sure Atrapos is good at rampaging in close range or melee for it's point. I'm considering swap for Leviathan(same role as Atrapos) or Sicaran Venator(tank-hunt). * Contemptor go with Atrapos. It take away opponent's interruption aim for Atrapos. Like enemy walkers, or terminators. * Terminators deep strike to templar brethren or tactical squad. In most case they go with templar brethren, but if opponent threat backfield object they go to tactical squad. Of course they can escort Atrapos if needed, as same role as Contemptor. In any case, their role is block enemy assault. May be I can take veteran tactical squad with marksman trait and heavy bolters instead of terminators for more fire power. * Deredeo kills aircraft, marines, light vehicle with Aiolos missiles and Autocannons. I'll be very appreciated for any advice. I'll must use Sigismund and templars and Kharybdis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Well, First is that the Atrapos isn't a legal standalone Knight Choice. He can only be taken by the Mechanicum and Questoris Knights in such a manner so if you want to include one with Legion Lists, you need a Questoris Knight list of 2 Knights at minimum, one of them being the Atrapos. Next would be Teleporting Shield Terminators. Why? They have no shooting so when they drop down, they have to stand around doing nothing for a whole turn and probably just eat enemy shooting during that time. If you want them to actually be immediately useful on the drop, swap out to Cataphractii and Combi-Weapons. Why a Master of Signal? Aside from his One-Use Bombardment, he won't be helping your list at all. Better to just invest in a Primus Medicae and slap him onto the Templar Squad to give them FNP. Also, give the Templar Melta Bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthelios Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 They can use Questoris knight as LoW slot. See new legion book p.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 They can use Questoris knight as LoW slot. See new legion book p.9. The Atrapos is an exception to the Knight LoW for Legions, he may only be taken in a Questoris list of 2000pts or as a Mechanicum LoW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthelios Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 In fact, no. You can see revised legion book LoW War Machine Detachment section that describes "1~2 Super-heavy vehicles of the same unit type, each with a Hull Points value of 8 or less, and each chosen either from the specific army list for the Primary Detachment, the Questoris Knights army list found in the Crusade Imperialis army lists." And as Forge World open rule for Cerastus Knight-Atrapos, it can be used either as part of a Mechanicum Taghmata army as a LoW choice as normmal, or as part of a Questoris Knight Crusade army too. I heard that Crusade Imperialis army book including Atrapos in their list from who have Questoris Knight army. Isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Regardless of what the War Machine Detachment would otherwise allow, you still have to respect the restrictions enforced by any model you wish to take for the detachment. In this case: The Mechanicum Knight-Atrapos may be used either as part of a Mechanicum Taghmata army as a Lords of War choice as normal, or as part of a Questoris Knight Crusade army as a 0-1 choice per 2,000 points in the army Seeing as this is neither a Mechanicum Thagmata Army nor is it a Questoris Knight Crusade army, he's not an available selection. HOWEVER, if you were to take a Questoris Knight Allied Detachment consisting of 1 HQ knight and 1 Troop Knight, then either selection could be an Atrapos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthelios Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 See Crusade Imperialis army list p.114. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 See Crusade Imperialis army list p.114. Slips has quoted from page 114 word for word, maybe consider a Leviathan in a pod instead since you cant take the Atrapos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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