General Strike Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I was thinking of allying DW with MT, what do you guys think? I was originally going to do more space marines, but I wanted to DW so I didn't have to paint more normal marines. What do you guys think and suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I am always reluctant to ally "elite" armies with "elite" armies. DW are definitely an elite army and Scions well they're certainly priced that way. What do you hope to achieve by running the two side by side? I can't really think of what the Scions could do better than DW. Especially when DW have a formation that give them all deep strike and their codex and load outs are larger than the scions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 That's why I was reluctant too, duz, elite and elite. I was mostly aiming for a fluffy list, stormtroopers with DW essentially. But I don't want to sacrifice every game for fluff, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 The hellrain gives you a good throw away unit if you can hide the commissar somewhere. Otherwise yeah, they are an odd mix. Anything the MT does deathwatch will probably do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Thematically yes, but as duz said elite does not go well with elite... Plus the new DW have much more toys and options than the Scions :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 The hellrain gives you a good throw away unit if you can hide the commissar somewhere. Otherwise yeah, they are an odd mix. Anything the MT does deathwatch will probably do better. I could agree with Lysere, the hellrain formation would be a relatively cheap way of fielding them and at least you can recycle some. It would be kind of fluffy too I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 That actually does make sense as an issue, I may have to go back to the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Yeah, not really sure what gaps MT would plug in a DW list, it's not like they give you numbers for holding objectives or anything, and DW get some really nice kit compared to the MT's fairly standard selection. In terms of fluff it would be really cool though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polak Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 If going with fluff take an inquisitor along for reserve bonuses and then just make a small allied detachment of scions as inquisition stormtroopers. Sure this is kinda a waste of points when it comes down to combat effectiveness, but rather have them parked on backboard objectives than your superiour marines ;) But doing it for fluff points is gravy in itself :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 I plan to go full on toys for my DW, I know everyone advises against that but I want to play with the goodies and GW doesn't want us to, apparently. So, I haven't looked at MT and how much they cost to kit out, but I was either going to load them up with bodies over toys, or maybe I'll just run an AD of guard, and use an elite slot for scions, a guard platoon, an Inquisitor, then my either AD of DW or just a few kill teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I may actually do this. I had already made up my mind to do another Militarum Tempestus Regiment so why not an Inquisitorial one? Maybe just a Command Squad and a ten man or two five man squads of Scions that I can grow to two ten man squads later. I'm reading Shield of Baal: Leviathan right now and it's got me thinking about the Glory Boys quite a bit. Maybe I'll add in a Kill Marine from the Raptors or Doom Eagles Chapters. Too many ideas involving fluffy goodness ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 I made up a quick army list: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325197-1850-blackspear-and-mt-inquisitor/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polak Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I made up a quick army list: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325197-1850-blackspear-and-mt-inquisitor/ Why go with Ordo Heriticus Inquisitor and not the Xenos? I'd imagine with a shooty army you'd want to use the most shootiest Inq out there, though would it be heresy to take Jokaero's? I have a strong feeling he DW would frown upon said Ordo Xenos Inquisitor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Yeah, you're right, I just like the OH Inq model hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I was going to be doing a mix of the old =][= and Guard. But then DW dropped and now it looks like all 3 are getting mishmashed together. Points and game effectiveness has gone out of the window on this for me. I'll just have what looks good and then see how much it ends up costing points wise after. ;) I see an Inquisitor or 10 with the best looking toys (Bulgryns, Scions, DW) and then a flood of Guard bodies to plug the inevitable lack of numbers. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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