Phoenix Darkus Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Probably has been covered before but what's the point of the shell shock rule (“Due to the repeated rapid impactof the quad launcher’s shells, Pinning tests taken because of its attacks are made at a -1 Leadership penalty”) when barrage weapons haven't triggered pin tests since 6th edition? What am I missing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Probably has been covered before but what's the point of the shell shock rule (“Due to the repeated rapid impactof the quad launcher’s shells, Pinning tests taken because of its attacks are made at a -1 Leadership penalty”) when barrage weapons haven't triggered pin tests since 6th edition? What am I missing? FW not checking that things actually work the same, still. Do any of the ammo types have pinning? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4486322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsol Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 No they don't. I've discussed this with my mates as well, not good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4486578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 It's because the old 6th Edition rules for Barrage used to include Pinning. In 7th Edition, that is no longer the case. Don't know why FW have left the Shell Shock rule in the frag shells profile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4486624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Darkus Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 Or keep it in the profile and add "pinning" to the rules for that shell... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4486686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Eh - that's a janky house rule and would make an already amazing unit even better... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4486812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Eh - that's a janky house rule and would make an already amazing unit even better... It's not that janky, it's only one rule, and FW seem to think it should have it still. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4486878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 It's because the old 6th Edition rules for Barrage used to include Pinning. In 7th Edition, that is no longer the case. Don't know why FW have left the Shell Shock rule in the frag shells profile. The things I miss the most from 6th edition is pinning barrage weapons and pinning sniper rifles. Why GW? WHY?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4486971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I bet they still think they have the rule. Just forgot to write it ad by this point it's common assumption :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4487152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 We play ours with pinning, but I agree it could go either way. They had it originally back in 6th edition, so our group just assumes they intended to carry it over since they kept the shell-shock rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4487196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I'd play it as above. It's not that big a deal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4487253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Also when FW came out with the quad launcher model and made rules for 40k, they included pinning as a rule for the rounds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4487273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 They do have treads so it kind of makes sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4487290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 The free rules for the 40k Quad Mortars also have pinning. I believe it's an oversight, it's clearly very much intended. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325373-is-shell-shock-useless/#findComment-4510521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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