osmosys Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Read up on this beast I had a few questions. It seems to support every single kind of dreadnought except Leviathan, and maybe not Deredeo? Although it does say Contemptor, so Deredeo should count too. "The Mastodon can carry 40 models. It may also carry up to two Dreadnoughts of the following types in any combination: Space Marine Dreadnoughts, Ironclad Dreadnought, Space Marine Venerable Dreadnoughts, Chaplain Dreadnoughts, Blood Angels Furioso Dreadnoughts, Blood Angels Death Company Dreadnoughts, Blood Angels Librarian Dreadnoughts or Contemptor Dreadnoughts. Each Dreadnought counts as ten models respectively." So the combinations are: 40 - Space Marines 30 - Space Marines X 1 Dreadnought 20 Space Marines X 2 Dreadnoughts Although I'm still not sure about Terminators :/ ugh 1 Terminator = one space? https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets//Mastodon-Rules.pdf Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Terminators are Bulky and this rule is described in the BRB. As for the above, that PDF is the 40k rules. The 30k rules (and thus what can and cannot be carried) can be found in the latest 30k book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4491806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 For 30k you pretty much have it, but it can't carry Deredeo's. The Mastodon can carry 40 models. It may also carry up to two Legion Dreadnoughts or Contemptor Dreadnoughts as part of its complement, each Dreadnought counting as ten models respectively. As Jolemai said - Terminators count as 2 spaces as per the bulky rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4492155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Can't imagine why you'd want to transport a deredeo in a mastadon anyway.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4492381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Can't imagine why you'd want to transport a deredeo in a mastadon anyway.. Because the unexpected is the fear of any general! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4493205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StruManChu Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 The Mastodon can carry 40 models. It may also carry up to two Legion Dreadnoughts or Contemptor Dreadnoughts as part of its complement, each Dreadnought counting as ten models respectively. That word. 'Also'. That's how arguments start. They could have just said 'The Mastodon can carry 40 models. It may carry up to two...', but no. The way this is written it looks like they're saying you can transport 40 and ALSO two Legion or Contemptor Dreads, which I'm almost completely certain is not supposed to be the case. Now someone's going to try and pull it on me because they're shifty and I can really argue against it because RAW, it's vague. SIGH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4493589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 The Mastodon can carry 40 models. It may also carry up to two Legion Dreadnoughts or Contemptor Dreadnoughts as part of its complement, each Dreadnought counting as ten models respectively. That word. 'Also'. That's how arguments start. They could have just said 'The Mastodon can carry 40 models. It may carry up to two...', but no. The way this is written it looks like they're saying you can transport 40 and ALSO two Legion or Contemptor Dreads, which I'm almost completely certain is not supposed to be the case. Now someone's going to try and pull it on me because they're shifty and I can really argue against it because RAW, it's vague. SIGH. Not really, it says 'also' because transporting walkers inside a vehicle isn't standard. I wouldn't be surprised if the various drop pods mentioned 'also' under their transport capacity too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4493693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Dreadclaw says "has a transport capacity of 10 or can be used to transport a single Dreadnought". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4494110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 It says also sure, but it also says as part of it's complement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4494583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 If it could carry two dreads in addition to the 40 marines, it would make no sense to specify that it counts as 10 models, so I guess it is enough to counter that "also". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4496700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 If it could carry two dreads in addition to the 40 marines, it would make no sense to specify that it counts as 10 models, so I guess it is enough to counter that "also". Pretty much! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4499034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 It's 40 Guys or 20 and 2 Dreadnoughts. That much is clear Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4501378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 It's 40 models and also 2 dreadnoughts, who each count as 10 models each. It's just that the dreadnought space cannot be used for transporting normal models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4501553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 No, the wording doesn't support that. Why would they say a Dreadnought counts as 10 models at all? If the wording was "40 models, in addition 2 Dreadnoughts" then yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4501570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 It's 40 models and also 2 dreadnoughts, who each count as 10 models each. It's just that the dreadnought space cannot be used for transporting normal models. I'm afraid that's wrong Xenith, just as Ishagu says. Quote The Mastodon can carry 40 models. It may also carry up to two Legion Dreadnoughts or Contemptor Dreadnoughts as part of its complement, each Dreadnought counting as ten models respectively. It's non-standard wording from FW but the "as part of it's complement" is what means it takes up the existing transport space. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325542-mastodon-heavy-assault-transport-rules-clarification/#findComment-4502998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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