b1soul Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Mortarion did liberate Barbarus (with a bit of help at the end from the E) ...and he was quite fatherly to Garro. Perhaps Chaos made him lose the humanity he had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Maybe. You're absolutely right regarding Garro. However, Given that he wanted to have like 490k marines, I assume he just wanted to be -the- overlord. He bent his knee to his adopted father and when he felt he learned enough/had the opportunity to fight back he took it. Same thing with the Emperor. His legion treats humans as pretty much worthless meat sacks. Wraight took the "mongolian biker" and made him incredibly nuanced. I hope someone does the same with Mortarion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Maybe. You're absolutely right regarding Garro. However, Given that he wanted to have like 490k marines, I assume he just wanted to be -the- overlord. He bent his knee to his adopted father and when he felt he learned enough/had the opportunity to fight back he took it. Same thing with the Emperor. His legion treats humans as pretty much worthless meat sacks. Based on FW's fluff, didn't Mortarion have some empathy for the horrific suffering inflicted upon the humans on Barbarus? Wraight took the "mongolian biker" and made him incredibly nuanced. I hope someone does the same with Mortarion. I hope so too Before Wraight, the only WS stuff was really shallow and bland...Hunt for Voldorius and Savage Scars Wraight made them really interesting He could easily do the same for DG...Daemonology was excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Maybe. You're absolutely right regarding Garro. However, Given that he wanted to have like 490k marines, I assume he just wanted to be -the- overlord. He bent his knee to his adopted father and when he felt he learned enough/had the opportunity to fight back he took it. Same thing with the Emperor. His legion treats humans as pretty much worthless meat sacks. Based on FW's fluff, didn't Mortarion have some empathy for the horrific suffering inflicted upon the humans on Barbarus? Wraight took the "mongolian biker" and made him incredibly nuanced. I hope someone does the same with Mortarion. I hope so too Before Wraight, the only WS stuff was really shallow and bland...Hunt for Voldorius and Savage Scars Wraight made them really interesting He could easily do the same for DG...Daemonology was excellent No - he did not. Mortarion was using everyone for his own ideas and plans - and called it 'road to freedom'. But Emperor was a tyrant for him - sureeeee........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 If I remember correctly, Mortarion only raised a mortal army after they came under attack from an overlord. Up til then he was content to work and live down in the valleys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 If I remember correctly, Mortarion only raised a mortal army after they came under attack from an overlord. Up til then he was content to work and live down in the valleys. exactly - the further from humans - the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I meant the opposite. He fled from his adoptive father and sought out the company of people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I meant the opposite. He fled from his adoptive father and sought out the company of people they were just in a way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 They were tool to be exploited is what he was thinking IMO. History was then whitewashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 It's important to remember that none of the FW HH fluff is written from a third person omniscient perspective It's all from the perspective of a Scouring-era Imperial historian, if I'm not mistaken. Therefore, in book 6, it still says that the Khan really wanted to help Russ but didn't because of Dorn's message. Either the historian did not have accurate info about the incident...or he did, but white washed it to avoid undermining the image of the loyalist primarchs as a mutually trusting fraternity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 It's important to remember that none of the FW HH fluff is written from a third person omniscient perspective It's all from the perspective of a Scouring-era Imperial historian, if I'm not mistaken. Therefore, in book 6, it still says that the Khan really wanted to help Russ but didn't because of Dorn's message. Either the historian did not have accurate info about the incident...or he did, but white washed it to avoid undermining the image of the loyalist primarchs as a mutually trusting fraternity So true. Totally agree with your points brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Yeah, I'm not buying it that Mortarion didn't care about his people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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