Draakur Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Hey folks, I posted this in the WS forum but just had a thought that this may, in fact, be the better place for it: Hi all, From what I can tell via a fair amount of research, the answer to this is "no", but I thought I should ask here... has there ever been any fluff regarding when the White Scars were broken down from their post-Heresy Legion into Chapters? Specifically, details on names of marines or the character/personality of various marines and where they went ("X kinds of marines were chosen for the Rampagers, while warriors that gravitated towards a Y mindset were split off into the Destroyers", etc etc). I have close to zero knowledge of this side of GW fluff these days, and honestly just don't have the time to buy and read all the relevant source material. Any knowledge or details would be highly appreciated :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I'm no loremaster but I don't believe that point has been addressed. (Thw White Scars are very underrepresented outside of Chris' works.) That being said, I believe BL plans to write about The Scouring once the Heresy Series is over, which could very well cover the splitting of the Vth legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 Lovin the speedy reply, my thanks brother :) Good to know! Has that been officially stated somewhere then, their imminent covering of the Scouring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Lovin the speedy reply, my thanks brother Good to know! Has that been officially stated somewhere then, their imminent covering of the Scouring? Piece of string this. It will 'happen' once they finish up the Horus Heresy series...whenever that finally happens. I expect (at least) another dozen books before that rolls up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 Lovin the speedy reply, my thanks brother Good to know! Has that been officially stated somewhere then, their imminent covering of the Scouring? Piece of string this. It will 'happen' once they finish up the Horus Heresy series...whenever that finally happens. I expect (at least) another dozen books before that rolls up. Yep ok, fair enough. Appreciate the help gents :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Other then Chris Wraight's 30K works 1. Brotherhood of the Storm 2. Scars 3. Path of Heaven 4. Grey Talon, Brotherhood of the Moon Not much else about the WS or their history WS 40k stuff is quite limited and shallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 I got that impression from my brief searching, yes. People generally seem to prefer Scars, of all those, for quality WS fluff it seems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 40k White Scars feature in Space Marine Battles quite frequently. * The Hunt for Voldorius * Damocles (Blood Oath & Hunter's Snare) * Master of the Hunt (audio) * The Shape of the Hunt (audio) * Dante's Canyon (novella) * Overfiend (Stormseer) * Storm of Damocles Hunter's Snare features a Dark Hunter who was sent as part of an Astartes exchange program or the likes to the White Scars, and of course there's Dark Hunters: The Blind King and Umbra Sumus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I got that impression from my brief searching, yes. People generally seem to prefer Scars, of all those, for quality WS fluff it seems? Scars and Path of Heaven are full novels, so they get read and recommended more. Brotherhood of the Storm is a novella and the other two are short stories. They're all by Chris Wraight and form a pretty coherent picture of the WS. Definitely all quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Nice. Appreciate all this, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Everything by Chris Wraight on the WS is well-written EDIT: The reading order should be... 1. Brotherhood of the Storm (Chondax, outbreak of Heresy) 2. Scars (legion schism between loyalist and pro-Horus WS) 3. Brotherhood of the Moon (exile of pro-Horus WS) 4. Grey Talon (post-exile story with Hibou Khan) 5. Little Horus (forgot about this one...subsequent post-exile story with Hibou Khan) 6. Path of Heaven (some exiles return to the legion and fulfill final purpose, the legion reaches the Sol system) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFurioso Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 You forgot about 'Allegiance' by Chris Wraight . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Everything by Chris Wraight on the WS is well-written EDIT: The reading order should be... 1. Brotherhood of the Storm (Chondax, outbreak of Heresy) 2. Scars (legion schism between loyalist and pro-Horus WS) 3. Brotherhood of the Moon (exile of pro-Horus WS) 4. Grey Talon (post-exile story with Hibou Khan) 5. Little Horus (forgot about this one...subsequent post-exile story with Hibou Khan) 6. Path of Heaven (some exiles return to the legion and fulfill final purpose, the legion reaches the Sol system) This is super handy, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 weregeld and the extract from the great wolf both show flash forwards of their respective primarchs during the second founding/great scouring, so they're already heading there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I wouldn't be surprised if - and am hoping that - Shiban Khan becomes leader of a 2nd Founding Chapter, so maybe he'll form the Destroyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 I wouldn't be surprised if - and am hoping that - Shiban Khan becomes leader of a 2nd Founding Chapter, so maybe he'll form the DestroyersOoh, ok, now you've really got my attention. I'll be sorting out this reading list very soon now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Other then Chris Wraight's 30K works 1. Brotherhood of the Storm 2. Scars 3. Path of Heaven 4. Grey Talon, Brotherhood of the Moon Not much else about the WS or their history WS 40k stuff is quite limited and shallow you forget about Josh Reynolds works as Dark Chaplain mentioned and a lot of WS audios I wouldn't be surprised if - and am hoping that - Shiban Khan becomes leader of a 2nd Founding Chapter, so maybe he'll form the DestroyersOoh, ok, now you've really got my attention. I'll be sorting out this reading list very soon now! Shiban Khan becomes leader of a 2nd Founding Chapter, so maybe he'll form the Destroyers - not gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Other then Chris Wraight's 30K works 1. Brotherhood of the Storm 2. Scars 3. Path of Heaven 4. Grey Talon, Brotherhood of the Moon Not much else about the WS or their history WS 40k stuff is quite limited and shallow you forget about Josh Reynolds works as Dark Chaplain mentioned and a lot of WS audios I wouldn't be surprised if - and am hoping that - Shiban Khan becomes leader of a 2nd Founding Chapter, so maybe he'll form the DestroyersOoh, ok, now you've really got my attention. I'll be sorting out this reading list very soon now! Shiban Khan becomes leader of a 2nd Founding Chapter, so maybe he'll form the Destroyers - not gonna happenWithout having a clue either way on my end, could you possibly explain why you think this is unlikely? Is the character you're referring to just not Chapter Master material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'm gonna preempt this and try and answer any argument that Shiban wouldn't be suitable by the time of the Scouring. During Path of Heaven he admittedly isn't, he's become fatalistic and holds massive grudges, even if they're quite understandable. By the end of the book, however, he's realised he seriously misjudged another character, and cast off the weight of his despair despite the people he's lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 You forgot about 'Allegiance' by Chris Wraight . Yes I did, thanks Other then Chris Wraight's 30K works 1. Brotherhood of the Storm 2. Scars 3. Path of Heaven 4. Grey Talon, Brotherhood of the Moon Not much else about the WS or their history WS 40k stuff is quite limited and shallow you forget about Josh Reynolds works as Dark Chaplain mentioned and a lot of WS audios Honestly, I think after reading Wraight's 30K WS, the 40K stuff strikes me as pretty weak in comparison I did like that one script, with the WS librarian who refers to the RG as crows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Other then Chris Wraight's 30K works 1. Brotherhood of the Storm 2. Scars 3. Path of Heaven 4. Grey Talon, Brotherhood of the Moon Not much else about the WS or their history WS 40k stuff is quite limited and shallow you forget about Josh Reynolds works as Dark Chaplain mentioned and a lot of WS audios I wouldn't be surprised if - and am hoping that - Shiban Khan becomes leader of a 2nd Founding Chapter, so maybe he'll form the DestroyersOoh, ok, now you've really got my attention. I'll be sorting out this reading list very soon now!Shiban Khan becomes leader of a 2nd Founding Chapter, so maybe he'll form the Destroyers - not gonna happenWithout having a clue either way on my end, could you possibly explain why you think this is unlikely? Is the character you're referring to just not Chapter Master material? Exactly like bluntblade said. Plus he will probably not live up to scouring at all. You forgot about 'Allegiance' by Chris Wraight . Yes I did, thanks Other then Chris Wraight's 30K works 1. Brotherhood of the Storm 2. Scars 3. Path of Heaven 4. Grey Talon, Brotherhood of the Moon Not much else about the WS or their history WS 40k stuff is quite limited and shallow you forget about Josh Reynolds works as Dark Chaplain mentioned and a lot of WS audios Honestly, I think after reading Wraight's 30K WS, the 40K stuff strikes me as pretty weak in comparison I did like that one script, with the WS librarian who refers to the RG as crows They are good stories as for a W40K Scars. In 30k WS are quite different - and they are lucky enough to have Chris Wraight writing them. They could have had a Kyme of Thorpe writing them and would have been added to the list of sacrifices like Salamanders and Raven Guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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