Darkbubba66 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I consider myself a loyalist kind of guy, but just to scratch an itch I tried reading Chaos stuff. I feel guilty because I really like reading about the Chaos Space Marines. I enjoyed the deep character development the characters seem to have especially in the Night Lords Omnibus by ADB. For the first time I felt I knew why certain primarchs rebelled and in a way I sympathized with them. I felt bad for Kurze and in reading The First Heretic and Betrayer I began to understand Lorgar and Angron. I'll never like Lorgar or Fulgrim, but, as far as anyone can, I like Curze and Angron. I enjoyed Talos and Khârn and ADB is the man! Can anyone recommend more Chaos for me to read? I would really like to read more about the Night Lords and World Eaters. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 No matter who you like, read the Talon of Horus - it's an absolute masterpiece. Do you prefer 30k or 40k? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4544450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 ADB is kind of the go to dude for chaos characters with redeeming qualities. Most other authors do pure evil chaos or bombastic villain chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4544473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Everything from ADB. Do it. I once was like you and now my soul is twisted by his work and I'm enjoying Chaos as well. That being sad: Night Lords trilogy - 40k Talon of Horus - 40k Betrayer - 30k The First Heretic - 30k And of course his short stories, etc. As you'd said, he lets you emphasize with traitors and that's really well done. I also have the Wors Bearers omnibus here but haven't had the time to start it as I got other pearls to read. Don't know how it is. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4544533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbubba66 Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 I consider myself a loyalist kind of guy, but just to scratch an itch I tried reading Chaos stuff. I feel guilty because I really like reading about the Chaos Space Marines. I enjoyed the deep character development the characters seem to have especially in the Night Lords Omnibus by ADB. For the first time I felt I knew why certain primarchs rebelled and in a way I sympathized with them. I felt bad for Kurze and in reading The First Heretic and Betrayer I began to understand Lorgar and Angron. I'll never like Lorgar or Fulgrim, but, as far as anyone can, I like Curze and Angron. I enjoyed Talos and Khârn and ADB is the man! Can anyone recommend more Chaos for me to read? I would really like to read more about the Night Lords and World Eaters. Thanks. Thanks for the responses. I like both 30k and 40k. What do people think of the Word Bearers and Iron Warriors. What can I read that will give me a better picture of the World Eaters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4544554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 If you read the Night Lord's trilogy I'd also recommend reading the "Lord of Night". Good for perspective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4544595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchultzChaos Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Read Khârn - Eater of Worlds! It was an awesome read about the era between 30k and 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4544661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Read Khârn - Eater of Worlds! It was an awesome read about the era between 30k and 40k. Indeed. Khârn story and further transformation was done splendidly. ADB is kind of the go to dude for chaos characters with redeeming qualities. Most other authors do pure evil chaos or bombastic villain chaos. That's why he wrote a 'Master of Mankind' with one big villain LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4544739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbubba66 Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 If you read the Night Lord's trilogy I'd also recommend reading the "Lord of Night". Good for perspective. I read it and it guided me into reading The Night Lords trilogy. It was pretty good. Did Spurrier write anything else after that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4545089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I love ADB but really disliked Talon. It was incredibly over the top at moments and Abaddon has a massive personality transplant that has him mimicking the gregarious Huron Blackheart. The most amazing parts of that book for me is completely non story related... ie passing through the Emperor's light was so cool. For Chaos aside from the great stuff you've already read I think it's a great time to revisit the Thousand Sons stories. A very old gem that was my first favourite was Storm of Iron...a very rare read from that era that stands the test of time. A lot of the stuff surrounding and including Betrayer is gold. Don't leave out the side stories, they're at times better than the full novels. ADB gave a passionate and charismatic appeal to the world eaters I don't think can be matched. The stuff surrounding Calth is really good too but especially Know No Fear. Although it is based from the Ultramarines point of view this is the first real face to face, full on betrayal of brother versus brother and the opening moments are haunting as it truly signifies the beginning of the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4545539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The Ahriman trilogy! It's such a different take from other chaos marine stuff I've read and the Thousand Sons have such unique perspectives and issues that they're dealing with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4545568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbubba66 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 The Ahriman trilogy! It's such a different take from other chaos marine stuff I've read and the Thousand Sons have such unique perspectives and issues that they're dealing with. I really want to read the Ahriman Trilogy since I read A Thousand Sons. Magnus is one of my favorite primarchs and his story and that of his legion is truly tragic. Which book tells of Ahriman dooming his legion with the curse of the rubric? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4545586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The Ahriman trilogy! It's such a different take from other chaos marine stuff I've read and the Thousand Sons have such unique perspectives and issues that they're dealing with.I really want to read the Ahriman Trilogy since I read A Thousand Sons. Magnus is one of my favorite primarchs and his story and that of his legion is truly tragic. Which book tells of Ahriman dooming his legion with the curse of the rubric? Well... None of them. It's one of those things that is shown in flashback in bits and pieces, but you're never there for the actual rubric event. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4545794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Its not Marines, but for wider-ranging depictions of chaos, see Traitor General and Blood Pact. Also check out Ravenor, which has a fair bit of chaos POV, which follows on from Eisenhorn, and their sequel Pariah, which has many different chaotic forces encountered by its POV character. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4545982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The Siege of Castellax has, to me, the definitive Iron Warriors depiction. Utterly ruthless, efficient and brutal. I'd also give the Call of Chaos advent shorts from last year a go. They micro shorts but show neat slices of various Chaos themes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4546004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Uveron Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The Siege of Castellax has, to me, the definitive Iron Warriors depiction. Utterly ruthless, efficient and brutal. I think it needs to me mentioned that Storm of Iron, to me is the book that set me up collecting the Chaos army I have now, but Siege of Castellax is the second book that sold me on the Iron Warriors. Its also a good book as its a interesting one as it doesn't feature the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4546040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The Siege of Castellax has, to me, the definitive Iron Warriors depiction. Utterly ruthless, efficient and brutal. I think it needs to me mentioned that Storm of Iron, to me is the book that set me up collecting the Chaos army I have now, but Siege of Castellax is the second book that sold me on the Iron Warriors. Its also a good book as its a interesting one as it doesn't feature the Imperium. Also strangely TBA has a very 'prolific' Iron Warriors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4546174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbubba66 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 Are there any stand alone Death Guard or World Eater books that tell about their origins? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4547173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Are there any stand alone Death Guard or World Eater books that tell about their origins? Khârn Eater of Worlds has some let's say 'minor' points :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327243-reading-chaos/#findComment-4549169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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