ZebraM Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I actually really liked Gunnar's death, I don't get peoples problem with it. I don't know if it's just me, but I really like the whole "the wolves kept going on about being prepared to do anything but their methods clearly aren't working so they need to change." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Wet leopard growl is pure cringe tho. But all and all, Russ tries to ambush Horus and fails. Gets a beating, maybe Horus let him escape to prove a point or carry a "message"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieJGoulding Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I just want it known, for the record, that I've removed lots of references to "wet growling" from manuscripts since starting at BL, purely because it makes me cringe every time I see it. I've also toned down use of the word "patrician" to describe EVERY SINGLE SPACE MARINE EVER, and slashed the use of adjectives and semi-colons. Rumours that this is why BL published so many shorter novels in 2014-15 are entirely unfounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Amazing. I know most people felt that the wet leopard growling was...a bit much. Regarding the use of patrician: thank goodness! I hope to start seeing more Space Marines who look like seedy hotel managers :) that also goes for the word noble.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZebraM Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Will the next appearance of the Wolves have them conversing in yelps and barks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Wet leopard growl is pure cringe tho. But all and all, Russ tries to ambush Horus and fails. Gets a beating, maybe Horus let him escape to prove a point or carry a "message"? Or maybe, just maybe, Russ is competent enough to escape on his own? I actually really liked Gunnar's death, I don't get peoples problem with it. I don't know if it's just me, but I really like the whole "the wolves kept going on about being prepared to do anything but their methods clearly aren't working so they need to change." The whole change thing is neat, but was a bit overdone to the point of making the Wolves look incompetent. It annoys me that the Wolves don't ever run with plan b's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Will the next appearance of the Wolves have them conversing in yelps and barks? Or dry leopard growls ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Hate how the wolfs were represented In Prospero Burns. We get it. They have candidates that use the k9 helix. They re space marines already though. they don't need to be lycans at the same time. Plus the over use of bestial character traits just makes them seem childish. I did however enjoy the chance to peer into Russ's Mind. He never hated Magnus, Just wanted him to see sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Wraight muat dislike the White Scars as well...Path of Heaven has them limp back to Terra with what looks like less than half their fleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieJGoulding Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I heard that Steven Spielberg hated the US paratroopers in WW2 - that's why hardly any of them survived in 'Saving Private Ryan'. Also, Gareth Edwards hated the Rebel Alliance in 'Rogue One', and the History Channel hates all Vikings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 History Channel hates history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I just want it known, for the record, that I've removed lots of references to "wet growling" from manuscripts since starting at BL, purely because it makes me cringe every time I see it. I've also toned down use of the word "patrician" to describe EVERY SINGLE SPACE MARINE EVER, and slashed the use of adjectives and semi-colons. Rumours that this is why BL published so many shorter novels in 2014-15 are entirely unfounded. Hahahaha - now we know the truth Will the next appearance of the Wolves have them conversing in yelps and barks? It already has in the 'Thirteenth Wolf' audio, lol Wet leopard growl is pure cringe tho. But all and all, Russ tries to ambush Horus and fails. Gets a beating, maybe Horus let him escape to prove a point or carry a "message"? Or maybe, just maybe, Russ is competent enough to escape on his own? I actually really liked Gunnar's death, I don't get peoples problem with it. I don't know if it's just me, but I really like the whole "the wolves kept going on about being prepared to do anything but their methods clearly aren't working so they need to change." The whole change thing is neat, but was a bit overdone to the point of making the Wolves look incompetent. It annoys me that the Wolves don't ever run with plan b's. Ok Runefyre - you do net approve other people bickering but can't see your own? Russ is competent enough to escape on his own? 'nobody has ever said anything about Russ competence' - He is a Primarch, he knows his 'stuff'. Yes his behavior sucks, as his overconfidence. But that's still does not says he is not competent enough. 'The whole change thing is neat, but was a bit overdone to the point of making the Wolves look incompetent.' - really? Being ambushed by a proffesional and competent legion in space combat makes wolves incompetent now? Even through all the authors mentioned that SW use ships only as 'ships' to deliver them to the surface. And that wolves are not the masters of void warfare? Wraight muat dislike the White Scars as well...Path of Heaven has them limp back to Terra with what looks like less than half their fleet LoL. That a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Exactly my point. The fact that a military organisation (space wolves) blatantly ignores one of the most crucial elements of combat in the Warhammer universe (void combat) is atrocious. They don't have to be the best, but it's just plain stupid to knowingly ignore such an important asset. Regarding Russ, I was making an honest guess. I apologize if it was too negative in it's tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZebraM Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Black Library clearly hate Raven Guard, Iron Hands and Salamanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 This topic is taking a time out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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