Kelborn Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) The realm of Yamatar http://www.starwarsintheclassroom.com/content/ss/images/first_order/first_order_symbol.jpg Hello there, as I received positive feedback concerning the founding of a Japanese themed realm within the Imperium during the Scouring (and having the permission of Slipstream for using one of his Legions brotherhoods), I'll use this thread as both, brainstorm and platform to upload finished stuff. So what it's all about? I'm currently working on House Toho. In order to flesh them out, I was granted with the 8th brotherhood of the Scions by Slips. While thinking about their shared fluff, an idea popped up including the founding of a Japanese themed realm. As House Toho, their allied Titan Legio Gojira AND their own regiments of auxiliary forces called Ashigaru are all basing on Japanese stuff (Godzilla, Samurai, Pacific Rim and the likes), it's most likely that they share a common cultural and historical background. That's why the homeworld of Gojira belongs to former exiles of House Tohos homeworld of Kaijo for venerating machines more than the natural balance of their home. With the help of the 8th brotherhood, House Toho can reconquer their homeworld and start participating in the Great Crusade and later the Insurrection, etc. During the Insurrection, House Toho realizes that their homeworld (though being allied with the nearby Forgeworld of Tanya'ba) is rather defenseless. This impression is further enhanced when traitor forces (led by renegade lords of Toho) tried to assault Kaijo. Though these forces were fend off, the leaders of the allied strike force decided to enhance their situation. This decision resulted in a reclamation of the surrounding worlds (which were partly lost because of the traitors actions), reshaping them into one combined realm. This realms purpose is both simple and crucial: to strengthen itself for a better defense and a better position with the Imperium. It is still loyal to the Throne and pays the regular tithe as usual. But instead of being ruled by a strange governor of Terra, this realm is allowed to reign itself. Thus, House Toho became the leader of this realm, which they named Yamatar. Its Samurai and their suits are a perfect example of the honorable and mighty realm of Yamatar. Legio Gojira and the Forgeworld of Tanya'ba still clings to Mars but is as well a important part of this little realm as it provides most of the realms forces wargear. The Ashigaru regiments, formerly deriving from Kaijo, now recruit from the entire realm. As their origin lies within the marine and ground forces of House Toho, they become excellent soldiers and crew members for aquatic and aerial / void warfare. The former 8th brotherhood of the Scions Hospitalier, led by captain Galen Diomes, was granted to become an independent force during the event known as the Second Founding. They resettled within the realm of Yamatar, taking one world for their own needs. Specialized in multi vector engagements regardless of terrain, they make use of rare and unique wargear like rare and amphibious tank patterns. Instead of bolt guns, they prefer laser and other energy based weaponry like Volkites, plasma guns or heavy laser techniques, each able to work under water as well. While the forces of Toho and its allies are known to be proud (sometimes even too proud and focused on their oaths) and honorable, the heirs of Diomes are more and more known for a cold, sometimes brutal / ruthless way of fighting. Some say that they are obsessed with the ideals of the Great Crusade. On Kletax IV, they successfully fend off an Ork-Waaagh!. Afterwards, they executed the entire ruling cast of Kletax for being incapable and unworthy of ruling a world in the Emperors name. Therefore, they reshaped the society of Kletax in their own, merciless version of the Imperial Truth. Together, they form the realm of Yamatar. Together, they are looking on a past of betrayal and a future of war. Together, Yamatar shall endure. ----------------------------------------- Overall ideas: As previously mentioned: Toho = Samurai in Knight suits; Ashigaru = footsoldiers; Gojira = big, bad ass mechs While it is all based on medieval Japan and the overall Japanese culture, the 8th brotherhood will be based upon the First Order / Galactic Empire of Star Wars, being merciless, convinced on their own ideology (which is their own version of the Imperial Truth) and that the end justifies the means. Former Phantoms will still be an elite force of them. ---------------------------------------- Color schemes; tried to mix their color schemes in order to create a unified one 8th Brotherhood is heavily inspired by Stormtroopers and is not their scheme during the Insurrection but that after the 2nd Founding. Colored shoulder pads indicate their rank (yellow = sergeant, red = captain and so on). Order master will be entirely clad in black armor (what a surprise ). Phantoms will be their elites, being as well clad in black armor, though a bit different than their master. Terminators shall resemble the Imperial Honor Guard of Palpatine. House Toho (imagine it to be a Knight) Ashigaru regiment Heirs of the 8th Terminator ------------------------- Still looking for an appropriate name for the 8th. Any clues? This thread will help me in creating the story arc for all of them and further in creating the finalized fluff for our books!That's currently all I've got. Hope you enjoy it. Kelborn Edited November 28, 2017 by Lord Thørn foamy248 and Slips 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Additional color schemes: Former Phantoms Weaponry: volkites attached to arms like they had before; power weapons; a mix between Vanguards and Terror-Squads if you want http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/sm.php?b62c=@haLvy_hMJwP.hYbiB@@@@@@@hXbsb@@@@__@@@@@@@@@@@._.@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@iakk7& Like these guys + jetpacks and melee weapons http://img.lum.dolimg.com/v1/images/death-troopers_f2f9b53f.jpeg?region=0%2C0%2C1560%2C880&width=768 Master of the Order master crafted Terminator armor (maybe Tartaros); relic power sword (red glow instead of blue), volkite on arms as well, gift from Tanya'ba to the order, therefore some tiny Japanese / Samurai influences A mixture between https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/ff/01/14/ff01149754203adc5ce05faaa37c703c.jpg and http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ugcmPsH_NmY/UgCWHrWQV3I/AAAAAAAACq8/LSpaEnjWjyk/s1600/Vader-fixed-belt.jpg or this one http://img15.deviantart.net/3b8b/i/2012/363/6/5/samurai_boba_fett_by_cgfelker-d5pkows.jpg Crest of Yamatar A mix between these two http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/4/46/First_Order.svg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/500?cb=20150906223805 https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.216918495.2968/fc,800x800,white.u1.jpg Edited January 5, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4612476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 So... much... Star wars... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4612521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Kelborn and subtlety, a love story. Nomus Sardauk and foamy248 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4612552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) In terms of inspiration and visualization, yes. Keep in mind that the Empire and especially the First Order are basing upon Nazi Germany, which itself was allied with Japan during WW2. So I'm rather trying to create a "light" / 40k-ish version of our own past by using Star Wars stuff. Sounds weird, doesn't it? ^^ @Skalpy: ha, yeah that's true. ;) I'll keep the Star Wars influence very subtle. :) Edited January 5, 2017 by Kelborn foamy248 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4612563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Nah, it wasn't a critism. The former phantoms look *awesome* and the star wars aesthetic works with your troops, so no problems there. Nice back story, too. In terms of rules, what are you thinking of? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Nice concept here. May I make a suggestion for the Legio Gojira color scheme? Dark, dark rad-scarred grey, with a subtle scale pattern on its surfaces. Darkened brass trim, and red flame motifs throughout. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) @drakzilla: While I agree with the dark grey main colour idea and scale pattern (no idea how you'd manage that though) I'd like to put forward my original idea for Gojira's decorations of almost-tribal markings daubed in the azure bioluminescent ichor of the Kaiju the Legio hunts, like this: http://www.toyark.com/attachments/23046d1385335175-leather-back-v-2-007.jpg Edited January 5, 2017 by SanguiniusReborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Nice concept here. May I make a suggestion for the Legio Gojira color scheme? Dark, dark rad-scarred grey, with a subtle scale pattern on its surfaces. Darkened brass trim, and red flame motifs throughout. Yeah, might look cool but I had something like this in mind:http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/godzilla/images/9/9f/GVM_-_Jet_Jaguar_Action_Pose.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140403212914 Just kiddin'. That sounds awesome, Drak! :D Thanks, guys. :) Rules? I'm not even close to even consider rules. ^^ Current to-do-list looks like - Toho - Get familiar with Auxiliary forces - Ashigaru - return to the Predators - in spare time: 8th and Gojira Though this list can change in time. Does a Knight House need rules? Was thinking about an new Knight suit but that's all for now. As I'm not familiar with rules (don't play the game). I'm open for suggestions. :) *edit* Maybe we could combine both versions. Partly clad in scales, representing the slain Ke'mano of Kaijo, while the rest is covered in ichor-ish markings of their homeworld of Tanya'ba like Sangi suggested. Edited January 5, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Also, before I forget, here's that old concept symbol I made for Legio Gojira back in the day when they were first conceptualised, for your consideration brothers: bluntblade and Kelborn 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 House Toho will receive a fluff chapter in Escalation, but a rule set would be reserved for the supplement. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Rex Monstra should definitely receive his own rule set. He'll probably never see a gaming table, but we should immortalize him in crunch at least for the fun of it. Titan-sized rad beam mounted on its head, dual power claws, maybe a higher weapon skill and some drawbacks, maybe he has to charge the main weapon, or is generally a bit unpredictable. And Sangi, digging the Kaiju markings idea! Though I'd suggest Rex himself should pretty much be plain. Keep him dark and foreboding, as the King of the Monsters should be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 We should really come up with some Titans for the Legio that aren't Imperator Class. Particularly a name for the warlord in Drak's painting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I thought Rex Monstra was Warlord class? Could have sworn that's what I saw, but could be wrong. If only there were some painter templates for Knights and Titans... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Agreed. Well, at least one could use the generator of Freeblade to create Knight schemes. Though you have to upload these pics on Facebook or somewhere else. Got Freeblade on my phone. In theory, I'm able to create such schemes. First of all, I'd need to find out how uploading does work in the end. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamy248 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Could you just screenshot it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 To clarify for everyone,Rex Monstra is a Warlord-class Titan, not Imperator or anything else, as I felt an Imperator would be too much for a single Forge World to construct, let alone maintain. Plus Imperators are meant to be rare as hell treasures that can conquer entire worlds and grind civilisations to dust beneath it's adamantium heel, it's important we keep them special and highly exclusive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Have to figure out how to do a screenshot with my phone. ^^ Incoming suggestion for the former 8th Brotherhood I had the following idea in the morning. We know that the former 8th brotherhood is cruel, merciless and brutal in terms of waging war & rebuilding a world which failed the Orders view on the Imperial Truth. Furthermore, they are deriving from Terra and the oceanic homeworld of Pionus. Therefore, it was likely that I was thinking of a aquatic predator. In the canon universe, we got the Carcharodons. Why not doing something likely? And that was the moment, another deadly predator came into my mind: an Orcinus Orca better known as Killer Whale. Orcas are known to be one if not the deadliest aquatic predator on our beloved world. So I searched the internet about them and found some commonalities between them and what I was thinking of the future 8th Brotherhood: - have the same color scheme - acting in groups - they both are unpredictable; the 8th safes you and then kills / punishs you for being unable - being merciless, brutal and cunning (ever seen how Orcas hunt? They are drowning whale calves, for example, with their own bodies in order to feast upon them! I've seen a documentation about this specific behavior and it gave me chills. ^^) Sure, this suggestion might remind of the Carcharodons. It's not my intention to create a Carcharodons 2.0 but the 8th could be our pendant to them as they are currently on a rising star because of the recently released (and awesome) stuff. I was looking for an appropriate Order badge and found this one Had something like a down pointed trident with an Orca in mind but this one looks good enough. Furthermore, I got the following names for them: Orcinus Astra (official, imperial name as they call themselves the Brotherhood), Tide Hunters, Myrmidons (were said to wear black armor), Depth Striders, (Brotherhood of the) Black Fathom, Truth Bearer (because of their conviction of the imperial Truth) What do you think? And now something completely different: Yesterday, I bought a copy of the Rogue One Encyclopedia and guess what? The featured Death Troopers (on which the 8th version of the Phantoms will be based upon) are rumored to be gene enhanced and the pinnacle of the imperial soldiership. Quite fitting. ^^ Edited January 6, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4613883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I approve of Rex the Warlord, after thought. Means people could actually build it, and Imperators should be really damn rare. I also propose Faucibus as a Warhound Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4614403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I like the symbol kel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4614634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) After getting familiar with For Honor, I might've found an appropriate crest for House Toho: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/for-honor/images/d/db/Factions-emblem-chosen_ncsa.png/revision/latest?cb=20160713224642 Well, at least as a basement for a WH-ish version. It (For Honor) will further help me in naming certain ranks within the hierarchy of Toho by using their hero classes as archetypes of House Tohos Knights/ Samurai suits. *edit* hm...Though I did wrote the correct link, the wrong one is displaced. If it doesn't work, please have a look via google: For Honor samurai, you'll see the crest instantly. Edited January 28, 2017 by Kelborn simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4637188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Ohhh. Here do you play it? And good idea to take references. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4637274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Nope, just saw its cinematic trailers and had a look in a fan wiki. ^^ As three of four hero classes were created by Ubisoft (Kensei have a historical background, rest I haven't found anything), I have more freedom in using these archetypes. Rough ideas: Shugoki = heavy weapons, crusader or this brand new pattern Orochi = fast moving ones like Lancers or Gallant Kensei = veterans, rare suits like Acheron or Castigator Nobushi = Paladin, Errant pattern (those used as first line of defense) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4637413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 One of the Knights of Toho or a pilot should be named Satori. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4637978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Coming back to House Toho as it will be needed for Book 2. First page: *placeholder image* House Toho Title: The ancient and honorable clans of Kajio Household Grade: Secundus (slightly under strength) Warden Domain: Kaijo System, de facto rights to local stellar group of Waniku under review Cognomen: Wardens of Waniku, Beastbreakers Allied Legions / Forge Worlds: Forgeworld Tanyaba, Legio Gojira, XIXth Legiones Astartes Scions Hospitalier Allegiance: Fedelitas Constantus Quotes: "The strongest of all warriors are these two - Time and Patience." or "What does it mean to be a man? What indeed is a man? Is he the honor he would give his life for? Is he the deeds he has done? Is he the vows, which predict his life? Is he a servant or a lord? Is he a traitor or a savior? I cannot tell. For I do not even known what I am anymore. In order to save my people from the threats of below, I need to dispossess my liege. What does that make me? Servant or lord? Traitor? Man or Monster?" +-+-+-+-+ Shogun Moritsugo Minamoto, clan Minamoto, Lord of the Samurai, Defender of Kaijo House Toho (known officially by their formal title, the ancient and aonorable clans of the House of Toho), also known by their cognomes, the Wardens of Waniku and the Beastbreakers (informal, self-referential), was a Secundus Grade Imperial Knight Household that has always valiantly stood amongst the defenders of the Imperium of Mankind for millennia. House Toho was counted amongst the most venerable knightly Households of the entire Segmentum Ultima, its Knights being famed for their tenacity and their honorable demeanor. Separated from the rest of humanity's domains for millennia, House Toto nevertheless stood their ground against xenos incursions and the megafauna of their home planet, Kaijo. Severely depleted by the time it was rediscovered by advanced forces of the Great Crusade, most notably the Legion known as the Scions Hospitalier, House Toho was saved by the actions of the legendary Moritsugo Minamoto, whose stood against his own master in order to ally with the Imperium to save his people and whose leadership would prove paramount in the dark years to follow. ------------------------------- Could someone explain to me what they mean with Patent regarding the Knights Households? That they have the right to act on their own / rule by their own? Edited March 13, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329471-loc-the-realm-of-yamatar/#findComment-4682274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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