b1soul Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Hey Robbie, saw on your blog that you're working on a White Scars novel called The Last Hunt Could you give us a bit of insight into what it's about ...or maybe just your general feelings toward the White Scars and your vision of them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Knowing nothing of The Last Hunt beyond the fact that it is a thing about White Scars written by Robbie, I am kinda hoping for it to be a late adaptation, at least in part, of Kor'sarro's involvement in War Zone: Damocles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Yup...it seems to be 40K for sure That said, I do hope it's not about the Tau...hopefully about CSM opponents (DG, EC...NL would be interesting)...though I think you're gonna be right about the Tau Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Honestly, I'm fine with anything. I'd simply like to see Damocles covered by somebody other than Phil Kelly, though Josh Reynolds at least ended the "Damocles" SMB anthology with a good Kor'sarro novella. There's still a lot of material in the campaign books that hasn't been covered by Black Library at all, which I find annoying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Honestly, I'm fine with anything. I'd simply like to see Damocles covered by somebody other than Phil Kelly, though Josh Reynolds at least ended the "Damocles" SMB anthology with a good Kor'sarro novella. There's still a lot of material in the campaign books that hasn't been covered by Black Library at all, which I find annoying. True - at the same time Damocles always suffered from the 'not so good quality' stuff, sadly. Josh Reynolds was the only exclusion from the rule. Hope Robbie will do justice by WS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Guy Haley wrote an exceptional Gue'vesa story for the anthology, and since, Phil Kelly has done Blades of Damocles and Justin D Hill did Storm of Damocles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Guy Haley wrote an exceptional Gue'vesa story for the anthology, and since, Phil Kelly has done Blades of Damocles and Justin D Hill did Storm of Damocles. Yes Justin D Hill did Storm of Damocles. - which is brilliant, but it's more a Deathwatch SMB story than a Damocles one. 'Blades of Damocles' sadly was unreadable. Guy aley wrote an exceptional Gue'vesa story for the anthology - quite forgot about that one. Tis was really good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 What happens in the Kor'sarro Damocles tale (don't mind spoilers if you'd care to share)? Are Reynold's WS anything like Wraight's? With a title like "The Last Hunt"...I'm guessing this should be near the end of Damocles Perhaps another possibility is the last hunt of the Hunt Master before Kor'sarro (unrelated to Damocles)...though again, I think DC is right about the Damocles setting Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 What happens in the Kor'sarro Damocles tale (don't mind spoilers if you'd care to share)? Are Reynold's WS anything like Wraight's? With a title like "The Last Hunt"...I'm guessing this should be near the end of Damocles Perhaps another possibility is the last hunt of the Hunt Master before Kor'sarro (unrelated to Damocles)...though again, I think DC is right about the Damocles setting The point of Damocles struggle sadly is totally disappointing. Tau overcome everything... The only way I will read anything tau related - if they would kill someone truly major (not some supreme ethereal whose model sucks and nobody cares about him) like Shadowsun. The witch is horrible... Or.... if it would be written by Peter Fehervari Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 From what I read, Kor'sarro fails his oath to hunt down Shadowsun and gets called back home due to Red Corsairs invading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 That has me wondering...what on Earth will The Last Hunt be about? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 It will be about literally their last hunt. I heard the White Scars become extinct. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'll still have my BA...oh, wait Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4612935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMac Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'm not at liberty to talk about it much yet, but I think it's safe to say that The Last Hunt isn't about Kor'sarro or the Damocles campaign. It will follow the 4th Brotherhood under the Master of Blades, Joghaten Khan, and it's set during the "current" timeline. I was initially asked to write a Scars novel before the Carcharodons, but they indulged me with Red Tithe. I didn't want to go with Kor'sarro or Damocles because I don't like when a Chapter gets pigeonholed with a single hero and campaign. Plus Damocles was more about across-the-board involvement from multiple factions - Tau, Guard, Space Marines, ect - than it ever was about specifically the White Scars. The Last Hunt - and anything that may follow - are specifically Scars stories. As for my vision of them, I don't think it would be disrespectful to any other authors to say I'm leaning heavily on Chris Wraight's Heresy work, just because it's amazing. I must admit I was never a huge Scars fan before (didn't dislike them either), but after reading every story featuring them it's safe to say I'm well and truly in love. I'd probably even describe them as my favourite First Founding now, their culture is so rich and unique. I'm definitely trying to bring that to the fore. Anyway, glad folks are showing interest at this early stage, I'm currently 2/3 through the first draft, so perhaps the excitement will help carry me over the finish line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Do the people in charge just say "write a story about X located in Y" or do they say "we want you to write 3 stories about X, Y, Z you can write them in whichever order you like"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Rob, seriously, are you a lost brother of mine? I felt the same way with the Scars. ^^ Though my heart will always beat for the Vlka, as Bill King for me into reading 40k stuff, the Scars became my second most favorite Legion overall and my favorite in terms of how they were presented. And I admit that it's really cool from you to not focus on just one hero but rather "create" a new one! :tu: Did I understood it right that depending on its success, we might see a continuity of The Last Hunt? Jeez, what are you? A writing machine? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm not at liberty to talk about it much yet, but I think it's safe to say that The Last Hunt isn't about Kor'sarro or the Damocles campaign. It will follow the 4th Brotherhood under the Master of Blades, Joghaten Khan, and it's set during the "current" timeline.Ah very cool, fantastic to hear...and I totally feel your sentiment about not wanting a faction to be pigeon-holed into one campaign with a single hero. Looking forward to this. Looks like your main protagonist has a bit of fluff available, but none of it "current" I think Joghaten Khan is commander of the White Scars 4th Company and Master of Blades as of 925.M41.[2] Promoted sometime shortly before 925.M41, Great Khan Kyublai recognized Joghaten's skill following a a victory against the Red Corsairs of the Diata System. Leading his company in the Battle of Cardrim, he battled both Orks and Necrons. During the battle, Joghaten personally slew the Ork Warboss Skullkrumpa and then destroyed the Necron forces in a trap.[1] Sources 1: White Dwarf 389, pgs. 30-39 2: War Zone Damocles: Kauyon pg.19 Though I was not crazy about Legacy of Russ (I suspect you had some specific restrictions from BL when writing it), I thought Red Tithe was very, very well done and I'm sure you'll only be getting even better as you write more and more I was initially asked to write a Scars novel before the Carcharodons, but they indulged me with Red Tithe. I didn't want to go with Kor'sarro or Damocles because I don't like when a Chapter gets pigeonholed with a single hero and campaign. Plus Damocles was more about across-the-board involvement from multiple factions - Tau, Guard, Space Marines, ect - than it ever was about specifically the White Scars. The Last Hunt - and anything that may follow - are specifically Scars stories.This is truly music to my ears and I'm glad the WS have another good authour now As for my vision of them, I don't think it would be disrespectful to any other authors to say I'm leaning heavily on Chris Wraight's Heresy work, just because it's amazing. I must admit I was never a huge Scars fan before (didn't dislike them either), but after reading every story featuring them it's safe to say I'm well and truly in love. I'd probably even describe them as my favourite First Founding now, their culture is so rich and unique. I'm definitely trying to bring that to the fore. Blood Angels were my absolute fave legion/chapter for a long time. I had always been fond of the WS but truly got on board their battlewagon (so to speak) around the time Brotherhood of the Storm was released. I dare say they've overtaken the BA in my esteem nowadays. Wraight has set 30K WS up beautifully and I'll be excited to read your rendition of 40K WS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Looking forward .to some 40k Scars . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 On the issue of Kor'sarro Khan...don't think he's a bad character...but would like to see authours like Rob Mac branch out more in the current 40K setting That said, I think Kor'sarro has room for fleshing out if an authour would care to do it. I look at his model and I wonder...could he be wielding Medusan steel? Though my heart will always beat for the Vlka, as Bill King for me into reading 40k stuff, the Scars became my second most favorite Legion overall and my favorite in terms of how they were presented. Would love to see a bit of interaction between WS and SW in 40K...especially in light of the interesting 30K dynamic established by Wraight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 It will be about literally their last hunt. I heard the White Scars become extinct. Lol I'm not at liberty to talk about it much yet, but I think it's safe to say that The Last Hunt isn't about Kor'sarro or the Damocles campaign. It will follow the 4th Brotherhood under the Master of Blades, Joghaten Khan, and it's set during the "current" timeline. I was initially asked to write a Scars novel before the Carcharodons, but they indulged me with Red Tithe. I didn't want to go with Kor'sarro or Damocles because I don't like when a Chapter gets pigeonholed with a single hero and campaign. Plus Damocles was more about across-the-board involvement from multiple factions - Tau, Guard, Space Marines, ect - than it ever was about specifically the White Scars. The Last Hunt - and anything that may follow - are specifically Scars stories. As for my vision of them, I don't think it would be disrespectful to any other authors to say I'm leaning heavily on Chris Wraight's Heresy work, just because it's amazing. I must admit I was never a huge Scars fan before (didn't dislike them either), but after reading every story featuring them it's safe to say I'm well and truly in love. I'd probably even describe them as my favourite First Founding now, their culture is so rich and unique. I'm definitely trying to bring that to the fore. Anyway, glad folks are showing interest at this early stage, I'm currently 2/3 through the first draft, so perhaps the excitement will help carry me over the finish line Awesome to hear. In W40k people almost don't know any WS character except for the Kor'sarro and his Shadowsun hunt. And let's be truthful - tau has 'plot armor' Robbie. Shadowsun will never be killed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Didn't know about this project, but count me in as excited for it! Scars and Path of Heaven are two of my favorite HH novels. A lot to live up to, but Red Tithe was legit so I am hopeful! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 If Robbie will do WS even half as they were done by Wraight - color me excited :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4613905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 I have high hopes...especially after reading Carcharadons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4615847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Agreed. Just finished Red Tithe and damn! :D Maybe we'll see some Scars vs Corsairs action? As far as I rember, the Corsairs are the only traitor force which is specialized in fast warfare like the Scars. Could be a great chance to mirror both of them and create a What if scenario as the Scars could as well have become space pirates if events eould have turned out differently. I'm digging a Corsairs leader with a familiar which he's taking care for, naming it Polly. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4615893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwell84 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Though my heart will always beat for the Vlka, as Bill King for me into reading 40k stuff, the Scars became my second most favorite Legion overall and my favorite in terms of how they were presented. Would love to see a bit of interaction between WS and SW in 40K...especially in light of the interesting 30K dynamic established by Wraight Ditto. From the way Path of Heaven ended, their mutual disdain might have changed into wary respect by the end of the heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329512-the-last-hunt-by-robmac/#findComment-4616047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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