bluntblade Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 Folks, how fussed are we about matching characters' debuts in the Books to the first battles they take part in? Obviously the HH ones don't fuss about it much, but I was just wondering. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4757439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I generally really like the idea; I think the thing we'd have to see though first is the Legions' rules all completed so we could balance any expansions to rules with additional characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4757601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Seems like GW is really digging our Genesis Legion. Why else creating a Dread for it? :D https://youtu.be/jGyR5n_3kIg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4757604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Folks, how fussed are we about matching characters' debuts in the Books to the first battles they take part in? Obviously the HH ones don't fuss about it much, but I was just wondering. How exactly do you mean? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4757780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 So, on the IF's part in Extermination, we have Dorn and Sigismund when they're not at Phall, and Fulgrim, not Eidolon, appears in Betrayal. I think we have a few instances of this with the Day of Revelation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4757941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 So, on the IF's part in Extermination, we have Dorn and Sigismund when they're not at Phall, and Fulgrim, not Eidolon, appears in Betrayal. I think we have a few instances of this with the Day of Revelation. Well at least one of my characters (Xtaabay, my vigilator/assassin type) is not around for the Death of the Bear ambush. He and some of his best have infiltrated the Solar Segmentum (possibly the Terra system itself) in preparation of spreading dissent and panic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 I'm quite prepared to accept that this just isn't an issue for the majority, in which case I'm willing to drop it. Though Grifft, exactly what do you intend for Xtaabay? Cos that'll set him up against either Ruel (if he decides to get involved on Mars), another Halcyon Wardens group or a potential Fire Keepers garisson. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) It not an area I've put much work into so I'm pretty flexible. There was a short discussion some time ago about the insurgents potentially killing off the Fabricator General between Kelbor Hal and Mortera (can't remember his name though). That would require someone to be in the Terrace system, though they could easily be caught/killed during the action. Mostly I want to try to show off the Stealth aspect of the Grave Stalkers rather than their 'Pariahness', though that might be important in keeping their a tons concealed from the Divinatory powers of the Halcyon Wardens and Alexandros. Their attacks would, do be mostly guerrilla in approach, which would make them particularly hard to deal with. But I would imagine that they would mostly be pinprick in the Galactic scheme of the Insurrection, with the assassination of the Fabricator General being their standout success. Edited May 28, 2017 by Grifftofer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 Zagreus Kane would be the in-between. Though I'd give him a couple of years in the job, I'm open to that being a thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Mortera plots to have Kane killed during the Insurrection, leaving her to take the place of Fabricator-General of Mars. Perhaps she facilitates this attempt. Whilst she wouldn't actively work with the Insurrection to this goal, she would certainly be open to leaving Kane in a position where he can be killed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 To be honest, I think Mars wil be too chaotic for anyone to successfully arrange their allies getting offed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Not during the Schism itself, but afterwards. Kane wouldn't be officially appointed as FB before the end of the Schism, nor would Mortera be appointed Fabricator-Locum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 Perhaps the Grave Stalkers enable Kelbor Hal's escape from Mars? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Perhaps the Grave Stalkers enable Kelbor Hal's escape from Mars? I like that. It begins to create their legend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Slips, what's the policy about mentioning livestreams that don't pertain to 40k? I'm guessing, 'no', but no harm in asking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) Yep, its a no. Link them in Signatures or in PMs fine but otherwise, yeahhh... Edited May 28, 2017 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 So, I'm pretty sure we mostly have the same idea here, but just wanna make sure. Are we all in favor of ditching this Primaris Marine shenanigans for our 40k timeline and just calling them Genesis Marines instead? Because I am so down for that. MikhalLeNoir 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 *raises hand* I vote Yay for this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Yes. Take Intercessor, replace bolt-rifle by hellgun, replace helm with the optically-enhanced one from the Iron Warrior upgrade set, and you have a Genesis Legionaire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 Aye Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Yeah, that's definitely the direction we're headed to. Thanks for the answer, Slips. If anyone is mildly curious about what sparked that question, feel free to send me a PM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Yes. Take Intercessor, replace bolt-rifle by hellgun, replace helm with the optically-enhanced one from the Iron Warrior upgrade set, and you have a Genesis Legionaire. Agree with everything except the Helm choice, but that's mainly because I hate that design, especially that the bionic eye/targeter thing is not aligned properly with the eye it's supposed to connect to, like it's placed over the far end of the left eyebrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Aye, as well! Though I'm still struggling with the new Dread. It looks way too Mechwarrior-ish for my taste. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Yeah. Make them genesis. And keep the helmets.they look fabulous Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4758773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Drakzilla~ Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I rather like the new dread. Possibly even the best part of the Primaris Genesis release for me so far. It's like a box-dread with legs that look like they can actually walk! While it would appear the Redemptor is available to all space marines, I'd suggest we keep them exclusive to the Genesis legion to further differentiate them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/329759-general-discussion-secundus/page/65/#findComment-4759382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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