R_F_D Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 http://www.blacklibrary.com/warmaster-remind-me.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4649909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 what the feth! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4649943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 *IT'S HAPPENING GIF* You know which one. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4649997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Awesome news. Really for reals! So should get Urdesh around same time. That's Xmas reading sorted out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4650068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Nothing awesome here. December 2017? That's coming soon? 10 months - golly gee. The books was finished last month - why it take a fething year to release it? The obvious explanation - they want something solid for the Black Library Weekender 2017 release Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4651503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Nothing awesome here. December 2017? That's coming soon? 10 months - :cuss. The books was finished last month - why it take a fething year to release it? The obvious explanation - they want something solid for the Black Library Weekender 2017 release You got your answer from Laurie on another thread. Apparently it takes approx 11 months from delivery of first draft to go through edits and rewrites and then printing and shipping all over the world for simultaneous release! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4651709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 That would be because BL are a small time publisher that the mass market has no clue about. I wonder if publishing times of 11 months have anything to do with that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4651775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 That would be because BL are a small time publisher that the mass market has no clue about. I wonder if publishing times of 11 months have anything to do with that. BL is not a small publisher comparing to a lot of small publishers like Gretch, Frederick and Po, Minestrel etc. I think you heard zero about them - BUT BL is first on Google Search and has a lot of fame even in Slavik world. So it has nothing to do with the small publishers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4652619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I think you will find that you're putting words where I didn't say any. I said they are small time that the mass market has no clue about. That could change with a decent movie. But that is another topic entirely and a movie will never happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4652693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I think you will find that you're putting words where I didn't say any. I said they are small time that the mass market has no clue about. That could change with a decent movie. But that is another topic entirely and a movie will never happen. True. Because GW is greedy as hell and to create a truly magnificent W40K movie you need: not bollywood producer and director (who also love W40K); a lot of money for sceneries and CGI work; a lot of money for at least 2-3 famous moviestars to get 'teenagers' into the cinemas; good chosen story to start with :) As for the publisher - from my point of view BL is not a small time. And mass market definitely know them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4654721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 @Mellow: BL has several New York Times bestsellers (well at least one) - in some aspects, the books it publishes (in particular the opening trilogy to the Horus Heresy) are better known then Games Workshop itself is. Black Library books are sold by major book retailers in several countries around the world. To me, that sounds like they are known by the mass market (to the extent that you are speaking about science fiction nerds as "mass market" ;) ) I really can't wait for this release :) Well, actually, I can, I still haven't read Blood Pact XD What I hope is that they sell the completed work as an omnibus (once the final book is also out) as I have the first three omnibuses in the same format :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4657593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 @Mellow: BL has several New York Times bestsellers (well at least one) - in some aspects, the books it publishes (in particular the opening trilogy to the Horus Heresy) are better known then Games Workshop itself is. Black Library books are sold by major book retailers in several countries around the world. To me, that sounds like they are known by the mass market (to the extent that you are speaking about science fiction nerds as "mass market" ) I really can't wait for this release Well, actually, I can, I still haven't read Blood Pact XD What I hope is that they sell the completed work as an omnibus (once the final book is also out) as I have the first three omnibuses in the same format Yes - you still have to go through Blood Pact, then Salvation Reach , then Sabbat Crusade anthology shorts - but you can do it any time and eventually you will finish them very quickly (that's usually happens reading good stuff). The problem is - Warmaster release in December (10 months to wait) and after that? Another 5 years till next book? I do not believe that Abnett will fully focus on BL while comics stuff providing much more solid and bigger income. Sometimes I do adorne fans who hasn't read GG yet - they still have 12 books to go + anthologies and background and shorts + Double Eagle and Titanicus. What an amazing road ahead of them. But... eventually after they will read all that - they would come to the same point - to wait for 3-5 years till the next novel would be released, sigh... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4657722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah32 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Very excited for this, gonna need to re-read Blood Pact now been years since I read it. Also I bought the SABBAT CRUSADE anthology which if know one here has read yet really need to go and get this, easily one of the best anthologies BL have ever done! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4657803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Very excited for this, gonna need to re-read Blood Pact now been years since I read it. Also I bought the SABBAT CRUSADE anthology which if know one here has read yet really need to go and get this, easily one of the best anthologies BL have ever done! Everyone already read it - tis old as frozen hell. It's absolutely not a mandatory read. Yes - Abnett and Vincent shorts are a direct continuation for Salvation Reach and a road to Warmaster. But are they that important? Nope - you could successfully skip them and lose absolutely nothing. Simple fan-service. On the other hand - let's our 10 month watch continues Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4657852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah32 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Very excited for this, gonna need to re-read Blood Pact now been years since I read it. Also I bought the SABBAT CRUSADE anthology which if know one here has read yet really need to go and get this, easily one of the best anthologies BL have ever done! Everyone already read it - tis old as frozen hell. It's absolutely not a mandatory read. Yes - Abnett and Vincent shorts are a direct continuation for Salvation Reach and a road to Warmaster. But are they that important? Nope - you could successfully skip them and lose absolutely nothing. Simple fan-service. On the other hand - let's our 10 month watch continues Simple fan service is exactly why I'm suggesting it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4657870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Hasn't Abnett said that he considers the anthologies essential reading? Sabbat Crusade has several plot-links to Warmaster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4657931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Everyone already read it - tis old as frozen hell. It's absolutely not a mandatory read. Yes - Abnett and Vincent shorts are a direct continuation for Salvation Reach and a road to Warmaster. But are they that important? Nope - you could successfully skip them and lose absolutely nothing. Simple fan-service. On the other hand - let's our 10 month watch continues It boggles my mind you can say that Sabbat Crusade is not required reading for a book that has not even been published and the contents of which you do not know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4657936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Very excited for this, gonna need to re-read Blood Pact now been years since I read it. Also I bought the SABBAT CRUSADE anthology which if know one here has read yet really need to go and get this, easily one of the best anthologies BL have ever done! Everyone already read it - tis old as frozen hell. It's absolutely not a mandatory read. Yes - Abnett and Vincent shorts are a direct continuation for Salvation Reach and a road to Warmaster. But are they that important? Nope - you could successfully skip them and lose absolutely nothing. Simple fan-service. On the other hand - let's our 10 month watch continues Simple fan service is exactly why I'm suggesting it I hate anime fillers, so not a big fan of comics and fan service in prose novels - if you get me Hasn't Abnett said that he considers the anthologies essential reading? Sabbat Crusade has several plot-links to Warmaster. Yeap he said that - but I read them a long time ago - and from their 'narrative' they give 'nothing' in general term. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330154-warmaster-and-urdesh-are-still-coming/page/2/#findComment-4657939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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