CommodusXIII Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Maybe the Hellstorm Cannon rotates to give the barrels/emitters/etc. time to cool down or recharge between shots. And I don't see why you couldn't change the number of barrels - I think Imperators were much less standardized than other Titans. Being so huge and taking so long to build, I wouldn't be surprised if (like large naval vessels) each has its fair share of unique quirks and design tweaks by the time they walk out of the gantry for the first time. Master Toddius, Lasuria and Blackadder 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5187512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 Maybe the Hellstorm Cannon rotates to give the barrels/emitters/etc. time to cool down or recharge between shots. And I don't see why you couldn't change the number of barrels - I think Imperators were much less standardized than other Titans. Being so huge and taking so long to build, I wouldn't be surprised if (like large naval vessels) each has its fair share of unique quirks and design tweaks by the time they walk out of the gantry for the first time. That's a good point. Battleship design over the past 100 years has not stagnated with only a few models in each generation produced as technology improved. How much more so titan vehicles produced over millennia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5187768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostromo Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 From my point of view, multi-barrel energy weapons are one of the ... more confusing design dcisions of GW. The cooling argument might make sense... but there is still the emitter at the back that has no time for cooling. So what is the part that needs to cool or recharge? To make sense, that would require a dedicated emitter for each barrel. In this case, i see no point why it would need to rotate. And... why barrels at all? For plasma, that makes some sense. For lasers, maybe... but then it is no barrel in the usual sense. My point is... for that kind of design and a definition of what it represents, thinking about sense produces only headache. Why would you want to reduce the number to 5? To reduce the diameter of the central part? Thats just a matter of taste. Since sense is something we can kiss goodbye in this case anyway, you can just say a 5 barrel version is justified by the the arctic climate on the world it was used on. Or an older version (with lower cadence due to cooling) or a newer version (because of better materials or additional cooling measures... something to add on the surface?). You want to change it? Do it. Chances are extremely good that we can come up with reasons much better reasons than GW usually gives. Doghouse, Lasuria and Augustus b'Raass 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5188949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Amen to what Nostromo said! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5188950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k0nahrik Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Perhaps it’s the same principle of ‘one barrel gets hotter much faster than six’ thereby allowing the weapon to be fired for longer without the barrels being reduced to molten slag? I dont think it’s too far fetched a concept. That being said the idea of all six firing at once is very cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5189199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) I think 5 barrels is the perfect number due to the ionised pressure the back flush of such a God engine weapon would generate, probably pushing the capacitor impedance to it's very limits of tolerability but ultimately delivering the best output to heat ratio amongst the classic configurations of 4, 5 and 6 barrels most commonly present in production models between M22 and M26. -From the treaties of Magos S. Officus Edited November 11, 2018 by Grieux Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5189403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graymane Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I believe the barrels don't necessarily rotate. From the description, the barrels can be fired individually or together. So it may be more similar to a Napoleonic war era volly gun, as used by Patrick Harper in Sharpe. Cheers, Gm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5189498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) Sleeves: I tried to find a cement compatible with both styrene and PVC to no avail so I opted to sheath the PVC tubing with 0.020 inch (0,5MM) sheet styrene so to make adhering detail easier later on. https://i.imgur.com/mOfBr6J.jpg With a bit of care it's rather easy to do this and although each barrel has six sections the seams will be nigh on invisible once sanded and painted. What this world needs is a universal plastic cement and I don't mean Cyanoacetate glue. Edited November 13, 2018 by Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5190381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Hmm, wasn´t there volcano cannon in Dawn of war: dark crusade? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5190384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Wait, if there's no glue that both glues PVC and styrene, how did you glue the styrene sleeves to the PVC? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5190453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Gluing sleeves is relatively easy due to the surface area and snug fit. Gluing surface details, which can snag and be torn loose, onto PVC is a bit more problematic. Augustus b'Raass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5190464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldrick Shadowblade Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 PLasTicArD TarGeT AcquIReD!!! FIRE!!!!!!! Awesome Work! Very Inspiring! Augustus b'Raass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5191222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Cultivating Ennui: Once again in spite of the amount of work involved the results are far from breathtaking and I wonder while making up these interim updates that the results are boring to my readers. https://i.imgur.com/Vw4X6OW.jpg Suffice it to say I am pleased how this is coming out https://i.imgur.com/B1XklYw.jpg Even in it's rough state with only one barrel mounted the Hellstorm Cannon gives the impression of raw power https://i.imgur.com/joc4Pzl.jpg And will be a worthy companion to the Plasma Blaster Edited November 15, 2018 by Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5191639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Oh, you´re doing the two barrels as one times three around the central tube? Like in Knight warden gatling build? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5191660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naryn Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I quite like the tapered end to the barrel there. Interim updtes are still interesting because they give more insight into the process of construction. Keep up the good work! Bryan Blaire 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5191661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 PLasTicArD TarGeT AcquIReD!!! FIRE!!!!!!! Awesome Work! Very Inspiring! I now assume you went into a hobbytown (or whatever) and just dragged to the counter the entire display unit with all the plastic rods, tubings, I beams, struts etc... Eldrick Shadowblade, Lord Raven 19, Blackadder and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5191769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 PLasTicArD TarGeT AcquIReD!!! FIRE!!!!!!! Awesome Work! Very Inspiring! I now assume you went into a hobbytown (or whatever) and just dragged to the counter the entire display unit with all the plastic rods, tubings, I beams, struts etc... Ha! coincidentally you may ask but this very week I asked of there was a way I could get a display rack to store my Evergreen Stockpile. My friend behind the counter said he would look into it considering the scale of my work. :D robofish7591, Sgt. Blank, Lord Raven 19 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5191772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Hellstorm Energy Weapon Today it started coming together but the post office delayed leaving the barrel inserts so I can't finish the barrel ends. They leave hundreds of bucks worth of online orders on the front poach in all kinds of foul weather but 12 bucks worth of toilet paper spools is too precious to leave off unattended; ludicrous! https://i.imgur.com/MpSq7ci.jpg Yeah I said Toilet Paper Spools; Styrene plastic and spring loaded; I need five of them plus eight for the leg to foot pad stabilizers. https://i.imgur.com/H8ag4aS.jpg What else would you use them for goodness sake???? firestorm40k and Brother Chaplain Ryld 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5193851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 This is even crazier than your Thunderhawk. Looking great so far, good luck. It needs more choom though. (I have no idea if there are titan sized martian death rays). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5193863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Don´t this kind cannon start basically at elbow straight?Just wondering old art pics and connection point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5193901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Time To Take Stock..... After a week hiatus I revived with new inspirations on how to proceed. The Lower sixth of the cannon assembly vexed me until I realized where my problem lay. It is pretty much what is found wrong with a majority of scratchbuilds; they are too square and straight sided. The lower rail needed some slight curvature to the sides and base. https://i.imgur.com/q3M6lG9.jpg Fortunately the material I am using has a taper for ease of extraction from the mould. https://i.imgur.com/biPfc7S.jpg Playing on that feature I came up with the correct angles to duplicate the artist's rendering. https://i.imgur.com/10kf0vn.jpg This will be more apparent in subsequent images. Majkhel, firestorm40k, Augustus b'Raass and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5200431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Silvernale Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Are you going to build a Warbringer Nemesis titan? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5203322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCrute Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I'm gonna say it. This is the best project on the WIP forum. And on the BnC. And on the rest of the internet. Ever. There I said it. Augustus b'Raass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5204251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackadder Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) I'm gonna say it. This is the best project on the WIP forum. And on the BnC. And on the rest of the internet. Ever. There I said it. Thanks for the thought but there are some really intricate projects out there that dwarf my own poor effort. "My aw shucks moment" Are you going to build a Warbringer Nemesis titan? I do have a Reaver project that I shelved a few years back. I basically entailed creating a quick change conversion of a FW Mars Pattern Reaver into a Lucius Pattern of my own concept design. https://i.imgur.com/i9pRHzr.jpg http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278478-blackadders-lucius-pattern-reaver-conversion-kit/page-12 Drop by and leave a post; It may be the impetus I need to resurrect this project...... Edited December 2, 2018 by Blackadder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5204329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) Drop by and leave a post; It may be the impetus I need to resurrect this project...... I’ll use this comment of yours against moderati screaming ‘threadomancy’!:tu: EDIT: Turns out, I can't. The topic has been archived. So you need to contact a Moderati to un-archive and re-activate it. Then I will follow it and provide you with the digital kicks in the butt to finish the Lucius Reaver. Because that thing needs to be finished. As it is a thing of beauty. Edited December 2, 2018 by Augustus b'Raass Graymane 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330905-blackadders-attempt-to-build-a-lucius-patten-imperator/page/28/#findComment-5204347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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