cheywood Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Just got mine and I’m about as close to England as the continental United States gets. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think if you order from the GW store they ship from a regional distribution center while if you order from BL it comes from England no matter what. Edit: ordered it the 24th if that matters, not opening it until Christmas but the outer packaging was all perfectly intact. Box within a box within a box. I'm on the east coast of the United States. If you're closer than me, that means you're either in Maine or Cape Cod. And I ordered directly from Black Library, since the thing was SOLD OUT within seven minutes on the GW webstore And I also ordered mine the day the pre-order went up (November 24th). Not quite Cape Cod, but close enough. I’d think you’ll get yours within the next couple of days then, vagaries of the postal service allowed.Thing is, I haven't gotten any notifications regarding the order aside from one from November 27th letting me know the order was despatched and fully shipped. Nothing, not a thing :lol:I don’t think BL sends out notifications beyond ‘its shipped’. I know I didn’t get one. Given how small England is (comparatively) I doubt tracking’s as important there as it is to US customers, but I don’t know that for sure. Edited December 10, 2018 by cheywood Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I don’t think BL sends out notifications beyond ‘its shipped’. I know I didn’t get one. Given how small England is (comparatively) I doubt tracking’s as important there as it is to US customers, but I don’t know that for sure. Well. Mine showed up about 15 minutes ago :lol: Number 1176/1500 The lack of tracking numbers or emails letting you know where it is is kind of silly :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 The lack of tracking numbers or emails letting you know where it is is kind of silly Is that a GW/BL thing? Or is it a Royal Post thing? Mine arrived today, too. I didn't even open the box. I just gave it to my wife for wrapping and placement under the Festivus pole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 The lack of tracking numbers or emails letting you know where it is is kind of silly Is that a GW/BL thing? Or is it a Royal Post thing? Mine arrived today, too. I didn't even open the box. I just gave it to my wife for wrapping and placement under the Festivus pole. How you possess such an iron will I cannot comprehend. Larkyn and Kastor Krieg 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Finished! The book itself, the short story, and the IA. To say I enjoyed it was an understatement. I think, however, that the next book is going to be the “bigger” story, and I can’t wait Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 A few quick questions for the chaps who've read/are reading the book: Is the Mentor Legion marine a Primaris? Also, what rank does he hold, if any, and is there any insight into the chapter structure and nomenclature? Many thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiwie Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 A few quick questions for the chaps who've read/are reading the book: Is the Mentor Legion marine a Primaris? Also, what rank does he hold, if any, and is there any insight into the chapter structure and nomenclature? Many thanks! I won't go into huge detail but click at your own peril. If you want insight into the mentors it's a great book. Primaris? No. But also yes from a certain point of view. Structure and nomenclature? You get a good insight into how they operate but ADB keeps them nicely behind the curtain. They really reminded me of NATO troops training ANA in Afghanistan or US advisors in Georgia during the Russian invasion. Dumah, aa.logan and Xin Ceithan 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archidamus Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 The Mentor is a a traditional space marine or firstborn as they're referred to in the book. He is a Lieutenant-Commander. What Chiwie is trying to say is that: The Mentor Legion don't deploy en-mass at company or chapter strength. They deploy in small numbers with human forces and act as mentors to them. They train, advise support them field. Mentors go into battle with helots supporting them via advanced armour systems, think Deathwatch style with additional sensors or the techs from the Matrix who support those inside it etc. They relay orders from the Mentor they are support to Militarum commanders. As such Amadeus doesn't fight alongside the Spears of Breac's Warhost often. Hope that helps @Dumah. DarKnight, Dumah, Xin Ceithan and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Sounds amazing on all points. Now I have to learn how to freehand Owls... Dumah 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5212988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 The Mentor is a a traditional space marine or firstborn as they're referred to in the book. He is a Lieutenant-Commander. Firstborn eh? Sounds like an interesting name for non-Primaris marines. So, was able to look over my copy today at work, and took pictures at my FLGS I stopped at after work: This collector's edition is AMAZING quality. It almost makes me feel bad that I need to read the book. ... almost :lol: Also side note: Paging A D-B, are you a fan of Metallica? Because your signature looks oddly like their logo, to the extent that the supervisor who also wanted to see the LE commented on it looking like Metallica's logo. And now I can't unsee it :lol: Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5213341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumah Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 The Mentor is a a traditional space marine or firstborn as they're referred to in the book. He is a Lieutenant-Commander. What Chiwie is trying to say is that: The Mentor Legion don't deploy en-mass at company or chapter strength. They deploy in small numbers with human forces and act as mentors to them. They train, advise support them field. Mentors go into battle with helots supporting them via advanced armour systems, think Deathwatch style with additional sensors or the techs from the Matrix who support those inside it etc. They relay orders from the Mentor they are support to Militarum commanders. As such Amadeus doesn't fight alongside the Spears of Breac's Warhost often. Hope that helps @Dumah. Very helpful brother, thank you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5213382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 ...click at your own peril. Primaris? No. But also yes from a certain point of view. I'd love to hear more about this. I don't mind the spoiler when I have to wait so long to read it myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5213491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa.logan Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 ...click at your own peril. Primaris? No. But also yes from a certain point of view. I'd love to hear more about this. I don't mind the spoiler when I have to wait so long to read it myself. Calgar isn’t the one one to have transitioned Dumah 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5213577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 @ Dumah "The Mentor Legion don't deploy en-mass at company or chapter strength. They deploy in small numbers with human forces and act as mentors to them. They train, advise support them field." What a cool concept...really like it. They indeed live up to their names. Do they value human life like the Sallies? Dumah 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5213676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Napalm Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) @ Dumah "The Mentor Legion don't deploy en-mass at company or chapter strength. They deploy in small numbers with human forces and act as mentors to them. They train, advise support them field." What a cool concept...really like it. They indeed live up to their names. Do they value human life like the Sallies? Not exactly. They are very... Clinical. Precise. Efficiency is what matters to them, at least the Mentor marine we see in this book. He cares less about human lives, and more so about increasing efficiency and the chance of victory through improving and aiding mortal troops. Saving lives isn't an end in and of itself for him. Edited December 12, 2018 by Mmmmm Napalm Xin Ceithan and Dumah 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5213939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) So, ADB, right before you announced this book I had chosen at random from the index astartes this army to be my mostly primaris. And so I waited for this book. When the LE was announced I was over the moon. It's taken me around 3 days to finish the novel after almost 3 weeks of waiting for the book to be delivered from the UK. I really enjoyed most of the book, of course there were characters I disliked and some I really enjoyed. I very much enjoyed the aspect of the thrall, but confess that it left me wanting so much more. But in a good way. Seeing the chapter from a slaves perspective is only a fraction to the interworkings of the greater chapter. I really enjoyed the preface and I feel like that really helped me understand why you took the path you did. Some things I picked up on early and guessed correctly on as well as other parts having a light bulb moment after they were revealed. I am thankful to own the 644/1500 book, and maybe theres some hidden gems I need to pick back through on a second read. Edited December 15, 2018 by Dont-Be-Haten Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5215878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Nope. I read out loud every night for the most obvious of reasons (I have two smaller versions of me in the house) and I have a weird thing where it makes me yawn a lot. I was so weirded out by it that I Googled it, and it's actually a thing. Who knew? I've yawned twice just typing this. That's how weird/bad it is. Anyway, yawning isn't cool. So I'll leave it to Dan. It is?! No kidding, I get this too, my wife believes I'm just making excuses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5216529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 So, who are the baddies in the book ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5216855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 So, who are the baddies in the book ? The ones with skulls. Dagoth Ur and DarKnight 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5216864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 So, who are the baddies in the book ? A faction known as the Exilarchy, which has sprung up since the splitting of the Imperium. Mainly the Exilarchy is formed of planetary governors and forces who are looking to split from the Imperium, but ultimately it's headed up by a war band of Traitor Astartes known as 'The Pure'. One thing I haven't seen mentioned in too much detail is the level of technical advancement and surplus that the Mentors have, to the point at which the chapter serfs are armed. The main narrator of the book, one of the afore mentioned serfs, has a bionic eye that, among other capabilities, can act as a potent laser weapon as a last resort (much like a digital weapon). She is also armed with an Enforcer combat shotgun, with ammunition that can blow through Astartes Power Armour at short range. It also has an auxiliary grenade launcher, of which she has three vortex grenades to use. Armament like that is rarely seen outside of the Inquisition for humans, and yet these chapter serfs have it none-the-less. Xin Ceithan, DarKnight, Taliesin and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5216912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 For a chapter like the Mentors I see esoteric weaponry being commonplace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5216943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.crusader Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hey fellow Canadians, the Limited Edition is back in stock at GW site (and its out of stock almost everywhere). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5217777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just finished the book this morning and it was a joy to read, in a few books there are some parts that are hard to get through. This was the opposite, I didn't want to put it down. Every time I'd say I'd read one chapter and then read four then be tired in the morning. Thank you, ADB, for writing this. aa.logan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5219903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulemain Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 The Mentor is a a traditional space marine or firstborn as they're referred to in the book. He is a Lieutenant-Commander. Firstborn eh? Sounds like an interesting name for non-Primaris marines. So, was able to look over my copy today at work, and took pictures at my FLGS I stopped at after work: This collector's edition is AMAZING quality. It almost makes me feel bad that I need to read the book. ... almost Also side note: Paging A D-B, are you a fan of Metallica? Because your signature looks oddly like their logo, to the extent that the supervisor who also wanted to see the LE commented on it looking like Metallica's logo. And now I can't unsee it Does that woman have a tattoo, because it looks like part of her skull has been replaced with steel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5222716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I finally got to see my copy of the LE when I unwrapped it this morning, but only briefly. I had to wait almost ten hours until I actually found time to sit down and really examine it. Everything looks fantastic. I received #678, with a blue autograph. I'm looking forward to reading this, though I'm seriously considering wearing gloves to protect the book - it has that satin feel and I don't want to mar it with greasy fingers. I did take the time to read the Index Astartes article and found that very enjoyable, portraying a Chapter that is not romanticized as squeaky clean. I won't spoil it beyond that. Felix Antipodes and aa.logan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/38/#findComment-5223180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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