Hrolleif Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I just finished Path of Heaven last night and I haven't felt loss like that regarding a character in a few books now. Definitely an amazing story. Anyways, I've been trying to read the books in publication order as best as I am able and feel like I missed something. I picked up Wolf King and read it last month but, in Path of Heaven, Russ has already moved past that part of the story arc and moved closer to Terra. What did I miss? Where can I find it? C'mon guys, I need my fix...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'm not sure there are any Wolves stories in between Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4664694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Tymell has the SW order as: LEMAN RUSS: THE GREAT WOLF Wolf at the Door PROSPERO BURNS The Thirteenth Wolf Howl of the Hearthworld Hunter’s Moon Wolf’s Claw WOLF KING The Watcher Raptor Bjorn: Lone Wolf Other appearances: A Thousand Sons, Scars, Battle for the Abyss, Betrayer, Fear to Tread, Vengeful Spirit, The Unremembered Empire, Angels of Caliban, The Path of Heaven, Weregeld Black Librarium produced this timeline image as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4664713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrolleif Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 Very neat. Thanks for the list! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4664717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Yeah, alas there's not really much between the end of Wolf King and Russ in Path of Heaven. "The Watcher", "Raptor" and "Bjorn: Lone Wolf" don't tie into Russ directly (Bjorn is set post-Heresy, and Watcher and Raptor are both about watch-packs, separate from the main body of the legion). The only real appearance between Wolf King and Path of Heaven is in Vengeful Spirit, when we briefly see Russ on Terra. EDIT: For the record in terms of timeline, Alaxxes ends near the end of 31,007, and Molech (seen in Vengeful Spirit) is at the end of 31,009. Path of Heaven seems to take place in 31,011. So it appears to take Russ and the Wolves about 2 years to get back to Terra (I don't think it's specified in Vengeful Spirit exactly how long they've been there, but Russ is discussing repairs with Malcador, so it would seem not that long), and then the Scars get back there around another year and a half later. Since the Wolf Cull takes place in 31,012, Russ presumably departs Terra not too long after this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4664732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrolleif Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 Yeah, alas there's not really much between the end of Wolf King and Russ in Path of Heaven. "The Watcher", "Raptor" and "Bjorn: Lone Wolf" don't tie into Russ directly (Bjorn is set post-Heresy, and Watcher and Raptor are both about watch-packs, separate from the main body of the legion). The only real appearance between Wolf King and Path of Heaven is in Vengeful Spirit, when we briefly see Russ on Terra. EDIT: For the record in terms of timeline, Alaxxes ends near the end of 31,007, and Molech (seen in Vengeful Spirit) is at the end of 31,009. Path of Heaven seems to take place in 31,011. So it appears to take Russ and the Wolves about 2 years to get back to Terra (I don't think it's specified in Vengeful Spirit exactly how long they've been there, but Russ is discussing repairs with Malcador, so it would seem not that long), and then the Scars get back there around another year and a half later. Since the Wolf Cull takes place in 31,012, Russ presumably departs Terra not too long after this. Very good information, thanks. I think what I'm most interested in after the end of Wolf King is the outcome of running into that band of Dark Angels. I haven't seen nor heard anything regarding the final disposition of that small bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4664756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'm still confused about the complete lack of mentions of the Wolves and Scars in Praetorian of Dorn. Either the Scars haven't arrived yet, which means the Wolves are still in the Sol system, or the Scars have arrived and the Wolves departed, or they're both still there just somehow completely overlooked by Dorn and the plot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4664843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'm still confused about the complete lack of mentions of the Wolves and Scars in Praetorian of Dorn. Either the Scars haven't arrived yet, which means the Wolves are still in the Sol system, or the Scars have arrived and the Wolves departed, or they're both still there just somehow completely overlooked by Dorn and the plot. Wasn't there a mention right at the end of the Khan arriving? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4664875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 You might be right, yeah. This whole thing is blending together already. But that would still only solve one issue, because by the time the Khan arrives, the Wolves are still in-system to "greet" them, and have been around for a long while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4664947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 It's basically 1. Scars (WS abandon SW) 2. Wolf King (SW barely survive the AL) 3. Path of Heaven (SW have licked their wounds on Terra and are ready to strike out at SoH) As mentioned, Vengeful Spirit shows Russ on Terra...so that's between Wolf King and PoH After PoH, there's Weregeld...i.e. showing the aftermath of Russ' failed offensive against Horus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Scars does have that delicious scene where Russ takes on an Alpha Legion contemptor and relieves it of the occupant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieJGoulding Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 You might be right, yeah. This whole thing is blending together already. But that would still only solve one issue, because by the time the Khan arrives, the Wolves are still in-system to "greet" them, and have been around for a long while. No issue here. The Khan does not meet Russ at Terra - they are simply *somewhere* in Segmentum Solar, on their way to engage the traitors, and have been for some weeks/months. The two fleets pass like... ahem... ships in the night. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 How big is Segmentum Solar, actually? Is the whole thing still strongly defended or is it a FFA? Is Beta Garamon* in there somewhere? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrolleif Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Scars does have that delicious scene where Russ takes on an Alpha Legion contemptor and relieves it of the occupant.He's considerate like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 No issue here. The Khan does not meet Russ at Terra - they are simply *somewhere* in Segmentum Solar, on their way to engage the traitors, and have been for some weeks/months. The two fleets pass like... ahem... ships in the night. I think we're wondering why Dorn and Russ don't interact more in PoD Is it because Russ is mostly on patrol? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH79 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I assumed the Wolves were already done & dusted on Terra and out of the Sol System when PoD takes place. The timefame of PoD is relativly short as well and we see more of Silonious / Alpha Legion & Archamus than we do of Dorn and his internal processing / attempt to control the events as they unfold. Thinking about it the full scale Sol System alarm dopesn't sound until the closing stages of the book as well so even if the Wolves were close enough to pick up the alarm they would of been too late to actually help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 It was perhaps not one of the best plotting decisions to have the wolves go to Terra, then leave! I wonder what that means for the little watchpack ADB wrote about...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Well, MoM's afterword indicated that AD-B wants to include "those fine furry gentleman" in a Siege story Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Looking forward to that... Though I'm no SW fan, I am a big fan of legion interaction Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4665926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 It's basically 1. Scars (WS abandon SW) 2. Wolf King (SW barely survive the AL) 3. Path of Heaven (SW have licked their wounds on Terra and are ready to strike out at SoH) As mentioned, Vengeful Spirit shows Russ on Terra...so that's between Wolf King and PoH After PoH, there's Weregeld...i.e. showing the aftermath of Russ' failed offensive against Horus Yeap - Wolf Cull goes between PoH and Weregeld. Well, MoM's afterword indicated that AD-B wants to include "those fine furry gentleman" in a Siege story The ones that hasn't been killed yet and the ones which goes with the arrived Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331317-alaaxes-timeline-question-spoilers/#findComment-4678021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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