Urriak Urruk Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hey all, So I'm been watching the Angelus talk from the weekender (see here; https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/17/reports-from-the-age-of-darkness/ ) and I noticed they changed the timeline on the Horus Heresy. So, a lot of the events on it are covered by other books, but many I've never recognized. So I thought I would list out the ones that haven't been covered by a book yet (not including Black Library) and another list of events I simply didn't recognize at all. None of these events are listed as being in Angelus, so will be in books beyond that. · Old Stuff o Chondax/Abraxxes o Solar Campaign o Battle of Molech o Vannaheim Campaign o Battle of Tallarn o Wolf Cull (Yarant) o Titandeath (Beta-Garmon) o Siege of Terra · New Stuff o Sundering of Zhao-Arkad o Defence of Agathon o Cataclysm of Iron o Breaking of Anvilus o Sea of Fire I'm assuming the plan to cover all these events, but I simply don't recognize any of these from the latter list. Do any of you guys? EDIT: Removed Tredecima, ehich is actually the Battle of Bodt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'm pretty certain the Sea of Fire, Breaking of Anvilus, Cataclysm of Iron and the Wolf Cull are yet to be explored. Wolf Cull should be Russ's fight with, apparently, the Sons of Horus and Thousand Sons at Yarant? The Titandeath should be covered by the release of the new Titanicus game and its backgroundm, maybe later this year. I think the Defense of Agathon is from Book IV: Conquest, and the Sundering of Zhao-Arkhad is mentioned in Book VII: Inferno. Not sure on the Death of Tredecima. I can't remember if that's something we've seen before or if it hasn't happened yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingman Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Does the Wolf Cull = Alaxxes Nebula / Yarant? I assumed they will also devote time to (but maybe not an entire book to): Shadow Crusade The ascension of Angron, Fulgrim and Mortarion to demonhood Strife on Mars Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge the Daemon Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Does the Wolf Cull = Alaxxes Nebula / Yarant? I assumed they will also devote time to (but maybe not an entire book to): Shadow Crusade The ascension of Angron, Fulgrim and Mortarion to demonhood Strife on Mars Yeah wolf cull is Yarant. We defintely see Angron with lorgar again at the shadow crusade. Fulgrim might be an add in as I'm not sure how big angel exterminatus is in scale to other conflicts. Mortarion is on the road to Terra no battle but also well defintely get some in the warp fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athrawes Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Death of Tredecima is the battle of Bodt I believe from book VI. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Death of Tredecima is the battle of Bodt I believe from book VI. Absolutely, nice catch! It's apparently the capital of Bodt and is listed as "Tredecimmia." I figured it was something I was overlooking from book VI, just because they tend to color code things from the same books on their timeline, and Xana is also shaded in red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urriak Urruk Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 After reading up on Yarant, it looks like that is the "Wolf Cull" they refer to. Death of Tredecima is the battle of Bodt I believe from book VI. Impressive catch, I'll remove it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I thought I remember seeing Titandeath is related to Beta Garmon. Anyone else recall? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Yes, Beta-Garmon is the site of a lot of fighting leading up to the Siege. The Titandeath is part of that. Apparently Horus ends up there eventually, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 As a planet, Beta-Garmon is the gate to Seg. Solar, making a lot of sense for the loyalists to give their everything to defend it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingman Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 "Breaking of Anvilus" could refer to the major Forge World (cannot remember which side of HH it was on) The end of the anthology Corax is about Yarant, Sounded pretty brutal, Space Wolves barely avoided annihilation at the hands of the Sons of Horus, World Eaters, and Thousand Sons. Corax had to bail him out in the end. The conflict likely ended meaningful conventional participation of the Space Wolves for the rest of the war. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majorbookworm Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 While I would love to see all of these get the FW treatment (i'd happily buy them even if they were just fluff books), IMO the biggest limiting factor going forward is what can each new book bring to the overall project (even if multiple events are covered). Every Heresy book so far has brought us a new army or Legion ruleset. As of now we have Astartes, Solar Auxilia, Taghmata, Cults/Militia and Knights. This only leaves us with 1 or 2 new armies (Skitarii are apparently being covered with the Martian Civil War), and maybe we will get an Imperial Army list (i.e. something to sit between the SA and cult/militia lists, plus the last 3 legions to be covered. HH:6 was the only book not to give us either a legion or a full army list (only rules for the Shattered legions). Unfortunately I think that FW are unlikely to want to essentially just pump out only fluff/campaign rules a half dozen times until all of the lore on the image in the OP has been covered, given that essentially very little new content will be brought forward (only the occasional new unit or minor ruleset [i.e. shattered warbands/Sisters of silence]). What do you guys think, am I being to pessimistic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingman Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 The legions changed as the Heresy continued so we might get for example, more debased emperors children units or the successors to the Gal-Vorbak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urriak Urruk Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 I thought I remember seeing Titandeath is related to Beta Garmon. Anyone else recall? Yep, Titandeath refers to Beta-Garmon, found a source and I'll fix it. While I would love to see all of these get the FW treatment (i'd happily buy them even if they were just fluff books), IMO the biggest limiting factor going forward is what can each new book bring to the overall project (even if multiple events are covered). Every Heresy book so far has brought us a new army or Legion ruleset. As of now we have Astartes, Solar Auxilia, Taghmata, Cults/Militia and Knights. This only leaves us with 1 or 2 new armies (Skitarii are apparently being covered with the Martian Civil War), and maybe we will get an Imperial Army list (i.e. something to sit between the SA and cult/militia lists, plus the last 3 legions to be covered. HH:6 was the only book not to give us either a legion or a full army list (only rules for the Shattered legions). Unfortunately I think that FW are unlikely to want to essentially just pump out only fluff/campaign rules a half dozen times until all of the lore on the image in the OP has been covered, given that essentially very little new content will be brought forward (only the occasional new unit or minor ruleset [i.e. shattered warbands/Sisters of silence]). What do you guys think, am I being to pessimistic? I agree in that after Angelus the books are going to follow more of an "update" for legions rather than full releases. Although I'm sure they will split Daemons up by god, so that Death Guard, EC, TS and WE all become progressively more Daemonic and summon more Daemons into their forces. Also, they'll want to add more characters as they go along, and I even heard they want to update Primarchs. One they specifically mentioned was Vulkan (because he goes insane) but I would say a post-Molech Horus should look more messed up than the current model. And (this is more of a stretch) both the Orks and Eldar had minor impacts on the Heresy, so its possible they could be added. For example, I would make the next book about White Scars provide rules for that legion and the Orks so one can recreate Chondax. But I would also provide more narrative about the Crusade of Ullanor and the Great Crusade, maybe add rules for the Warboss that Horus defeated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingman Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 At some point I suspect we will see more "agents" or "agents of the emperor" type units: Lacrymole Assassins, Sisters of Cydonia, Officio Assassinorum Clades, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332112-the-horus-heresy-future-battlescampaigns/#findComment-4688891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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