TheOneTrueZon Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 In my continuing quest to experiment with different materials, I came across this: http://bit.ly/2ob00R8 I'll have my bottle in a couple weeks. I'll post results here. This could be an interesting basing paint for those of us who wish to take our Blacks to new levels. *EDIT* Unless you are Anish Kapoor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verger Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It'll be interesting based off the fact you draw your sense of depth from tone and with this - you'll basically get none. Looking forwards to seeing the results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m01iti0n Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Nice let us see the results! I go for matte black with a base of mechanicum gray and a cpl nuln oil washes and it's decent but I'm always looking to improve. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Ah, the almost vantablack! Will be following with interest. If it works out might get a bottle myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Seems like a very bad idea for miniatures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 It very well may be! However if it does not have any applications ON the miniatures, I can certainly use it for background blackout for photography & videos. I also want to specifically try it on a banner background, so that it really just pops the other colors out. We shall see. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Anyone else think that paint would make a sweet Battlefleet Gothic board? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Hmmm. The things you stumble across when you visit the lunatics who also wear black..... Might try this for my Raven Guard. Matt black is kinda their thing and all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Yeah, but even matte black reflects. This doesn't. It will look flat, always. And will be a bitch to photograph.The XWing / Gothic board + specks of white as stars and airbrushed "galaxies" might be a very cool board though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I picked some up for my Word Bearers, thanks for the link! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4706977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Might be difficult to highlight. Would love to see the results. I am very tempted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4707028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verger Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Might be difficult to highlight. Would love to see the results. I am very tempted. I think it might be "impossible" to highlight. The virtually zero reflective nature of the Black 2.0 means that it has no depth. Its very likely that paint you apply over the top will merely have the look of simply sitting on a formless silhouette. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4707030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 If nothing else this might provide idea for a power sword/paragon blade that stand out (by not standing out) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4707035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Honestly I think there is little to no application for miniatures for this. It basically turns something into a silhouette of black. When painting a miniature the last thing you want is to lose all definition and details which is exactly what happens with this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4707149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I must see it... It seems logical that it wouldn't work, but until you try...? Even if it was just for the Black Sword of the EC, maybe it could work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4707966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPityNoRemorseNoFear Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I think it could be quite useful for certain applications, like areas that are meant to be completely hollow which aren't. Examples could be gun barrels, the top vent of sm helmets and ecxhausts. It could also be used for arcs of black energy on power swords (maybe more for necrons though).I look forward to seeing what you come up with! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4708358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 "It was forged of black solarite in ages past" "The blade was black, so black it took no reflection, appearing to consume what light dared fall upon it." Taken from "Eternal Crusader" by Guy Haley That is why I would like that black Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4708441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 "It was forged of black solarite in ages past" "The blade was black, so black it took no reflection, appearing to consume what light dared fall upon it." Taken from "Eternal Crusader" by Guy Haley That is why I would like that black While that sounds awesome in theory, in practice what might look amazing on a full scale "real" sword doesn't necessarily translate to looking good on a mini. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4708504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metic Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I think it could have the potential for "Chipping" black armor. often times I have to build up a subtle highlight on where I want to chip and scratch black armor because putting a black chip/scratch on the armor does't show up well. Following that sort of same base coat > scratch with black > highlight under the black scratch with your highlight color. That doesn't really work on black armor since the black is usually your basecoat. =/ http://i.imgur.com/canW5H3.jpg?1 Just an example of what I mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4708525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 Loving all this discussion, I especially like the reference to the "black solarite". I certainly have a checklist of things to experiment on. Here's what my testing is going to encompass: - Generic Space Marine base coated in Vallejo Grey primer, with Black 2.0 wash (website says it can be diluted to make washes) - Generic Space Marine base coated in Vallejo Black primer, with Black 2.0 wash - Generic Space Marine base coated in 50/50 mix of Black 2.0 & Vallejo Black primer - Generic Space Marine base coated in Black 2.0 - "Droppout Camo" - scout camo cloak with Black 2.0 - "Dark Saber" sword - power sword with Black 2.0 with edge highlighting - Lighting - Black 2.0 background & turntable for testing photographing on "black on black" Any other requests? Nothing is off the table is at this point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4708581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Some simple vehicle, like a rhino chassis, primed Chaos Black, rear half airbrushed Black 2.0, right half of the Black 2.0 drybrushed with Eshin Grey for the edge contrast - pictures from side / top / rear? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4708684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verger Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Might be good to create "fake" pits. Slowly work some normal back into cracks and other places, then add Black 2.0 in the deepest parts, so the chasms appear never ending. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4708799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPityNoRemorseNoFear Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 black lightning on power weapons perhaps?I am loving the scientific testing approach, it always helps you find what you actually want for your minis! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4708833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 All the ideas being thrown around kind of make me want to get some to test out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4709078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 black lightning on power weapons perhaps? I am loving the scientific testing approach, it always helps you find what you actually want for your minis! Epiphany: Base coat light blue, Black 2.0 mixed with crackle paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/332781-blacker-than-black/#findComment-4709099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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