RikuEru Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I suggest an earthy brown as the main colour, it's a highly unusual colour for a Space Marine Chapter to use sp it'll make your marines very distinct, plus it fits the theme given that Cowboys often wore a lot of earthy tones like cream, brown and black. I second that motion. A colour from the Range of Desert camos could look really slick. Generally I support this Concept! Interested to see where this goes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InAction Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Have you got a colour scheme idea yet? I suggest an earthy brown as the main colour, it's a highly unusual colour for a Space Marine Chapter to use sp it'll make your marines very distinct, plus it fits the theme given that Cowboys often wore a lot of earthy tones like cream, brown and black. Oof. Color schemes is something that I haven't bothered with putting up here yet because I was going through so many different variations that I was starting to see spots. However, there are like two main ones I'm now seeing myself using depending on how I want to take this project. Actually, I was in fact thinking of using an earthy green for a color pattern to go with the use of 'Rangers' as the chapter title as well as the horse icon I mentioned previously. Even if it feels very similar to that of the Raptors, it just feels like it fits so well, y'know? http://i.imgur.com/bL4VoC8.png Other option I had was going back to one of my initial ideas for name/icon combos, that of the title 'Lone Stars' with an icon similar to that of the Invaders chapter, a skull and star combo. With that kind of name, I wanted to go with something of a more noble and therefore bolder pattern so I went with several different permutations of silvery-white and blue used together to come up with the following. http://i.imgur.com/YcUShwg.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) The bolder pattern is best reserved for Terminators and artificer armored Marines (Chapter Master, Captains, Honor Guards), as their superior armor allows them to survive the firepower the enemy will direct towards them. Edited May 22, 2017 by Bjorn Firewalker Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Emund Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) ............ Edited May 22, 2017 by Brother Emund Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minigiant Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Prefer the green in all honesty, I do however feel it is currently missing something connecting it to how your chapter is shaping out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Maybe a light brown/ beige / cream / sand tone for the shoulders? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I recommend whole squads of Vanguard Vets armed with 2 pistols. Delivered to battle in a Rhino or Stormravrn instead of jump packs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minigiant Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I recommend whole squads of Vanguard Vets armed with 2 pistols. Delivered to battle in a Rhino or Stormravrn instead of jump packs. Something like this should have a chapter unique name. 'Gunslingers' being the unoriginal example For the chapter badge have you thought about it being a horse shoe? E.g. Indi Colts. Could also use Ultramarine transfers ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Scouts with cowboy appropriate hats? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Scouts with cowboy appropriate hats? Hmmm, I'd say nay personally, I fear that'd be going too heavy-handed with the Cowboy theme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wargamer Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 If you're looking for a name that is not overly Cowboy themed, how about "Wardens"? It's linked to the Cowboy theme (via the association with prisons, thus jails, thus sheriffs), while still having the right kind of medieval ring to be suitably 40Kish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InAction Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) Prefer the green in all honesty, I do however feel it is currently missing something connecting it to how your chapter is shaping out Maybe a light brown/ beige / cream / sand tone for the shoulders? I like the sound of a beige/bone white. I'll give that a try. Scouts with cowboy appropriate hats? Hmmm, I'd say nay personally, I fear that'd be going too heavy-handed with the Cowboy theme. Yeah, I'd thought about something like that as well, but I can't really see a way that it wouldn't look silly. If you're looking for a name that is not overly Cowboy themed, how about "Wardens"? It's linked to the Cowboy theme (via the association with prisons, thus jails, thus sheriffs), while still having the right kind of medieval ring to be suitably 40Kish. That's not a bad idea at all. Something like "the Star Wardens" sounds pretty cool. Edited May 23, 2017 by InAction Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) I recommend whole squads of Vanguard Vets armed with 2 pistols. Delivered to battle in a Rhino or Stormravrn instead of jump packs. MORITATS! Why didn't we came up with that earlier? Would make perfect "Lone Rangers", who would be tasked with "small" conflicts / issues. Another good reason for being a Raven Guard successor. :P Edited May 23, 2017 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minigiant Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I recommend whole squads of Vanguard Vets armed with 2 pistols. Delivered to battle in a Rhino or Stormravrn instead of jump packs. MORITATS! Why didn't we came up with that earlier? Would make perfect "Lone Rangers", who would be tasked with "small" conflicts / issues. Another good reason for being a Raven Guard successor. :P Now what model is that! Never seen it before in my life. It is b.e.a.u.tiful Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 That's a Moritat, made by Forgeworld. ☺ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4750882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InAction Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hey everyone - just letting you know I've now updated the thread topic name and first post with the start of the IA: Star Wardens. It's still very much a work-in-progress but I will continue adding stuff as quickly as I can generate bits for the entry. VengefulJan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4751744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Star Wardens, eh? Sounds good to me. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4751803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minigiant Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I like all of it, my only thing would be the wording of cavalry tactics. Unless you are going to put your marines onto animals, I would rephrase that to (example) mobile warfare utilising bikes and land speeder Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4752034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) I actually really like the blue/white scheme, it has a very traditional, bold Astartes Chapter-y feel to it. Perhaps they should use that for their 'regular' colours, i.e. when they're doing normal Company/Strike force level operations? Then the more 'cowboy' scheme of green (and perhaps sandy/brown cloth/leather?) could be the one used by lone operatives/Scouts? Oh and Star Wardens works for me too, nice job! Edited May 23, 2017 by LySiMachus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4752132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InAction Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Thanks for the feedback everyone - I'm pleased with it as well and seems like it'd work with either color scheme. Speaking of, I'll be starting up some test models to see which I like better in plastic. VengefulJan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4752163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Emund Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 How about 'The Sons of Quantrill' with their first Chapter master... Chapter Master 'Bloody Bill' Anderson. Quantrill's Raiders were the best-known of the pro-Confederate partisan rangers ("bushwhackers") who fought in the American Civil War. Their leader was William Quantrill and they included Jesse James and his brother Frank. Your Marines could be experts in lightning raids. They could be a Scars Successor??? Taking inspiration from the Confederates of the American Civil War? With such role models, one would expect the Chapter to turn renegade, even towards Chaos. Would they be created using gene-seed of the Traitor Legions, during the 13th or 21st Foundings? I would consider it an honour to have a Confederate soldier as a role model. Why would you think they would turn renegade or turn to Chaos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4752202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I would consider it an honour to have a Confederate soldier as a role model. Why would you think they would turn renegade or turn to Chaos? For the second and last time of saying, opinions about the Confederacy and related topics are best left at home. Any further posts on that topic will be removed. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4752205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Emund Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Message received and understood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4752327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minigiant Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 You could probably have lone rangers as some sort of thing similar to a Space wolves lone wolves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4753119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InAction Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) You could probably have lone rangers as some sort of thing similar to a Space wolves lone wolves That I like the sound of - I can even work it into that concept of the 'lone gunmen' I'd been wanting. I actually really like the blue/white scheme, it has a very traditional, bold Astartes Chapter-y feel to it. Perhaps they should use that for their 'regular' colours, i.e. when they're doing normal Company/Strike force level operations? Then the more 'cowboy' scheme of green (and perhaps sandy/brown cloth/leather?) could be the one used by lone operatives/Scouts? Oh nearly forgot from last post, but this I also love so I'm using it. The green scheme I'll be using as a camo pattern for stealth operatives. -UPDATE- Just made some edits and additions to the Index, including an entry on Recruitment and Chapter Organization. Edited May 24, 2017 by InAction VengefulJan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333812-index-astartes-star-wardens-wip/page/3/#findComment-4753262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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