Cryptix Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 So the Abacus is the Grimdark version of a Fidget Spinner? I SWEAR TO GOD K I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS DON'T YOU DARE POST THAT GIF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4865608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar K. Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Limited Edition: Much love for the Death Guard!https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/03/mortarion-and-the-death-guard-next-weekend/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 So he has a 7" aura of smite? Good lord, he is beautiful. He is also 4 more PL than Magnus. As for Plague Wing, I really think this might be viable depending on the PPM of these bad boys. They will probably be T5, will have at least 2W, a 2+/5++ or maybe cause of cataphractii they will have a 4++, plus disgustingly resilient with that 5/6+ FNP. Combine that with a possible apothecary, Mortarion and Typhus, along with some possible heavy weapon support of the plague crawlers...might rival dustwing or Paladin GK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGuy Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Combine that with a possible apothecary, Mortarion and Typhus, along with some possible heavy weapon support of the plague crawlers...might rival dustwing or Paladin GK. And rightfully so! After all the Death Guard termis are famous to be the toughest of their kin. Does anyone have an idea what that triangle thingy in the limited editon could be? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolia Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Combine that with a possible apothecary, Mortarion and Typhus, along with some possible heavy weapon support of the plague crawlers...might rival dustwing or Paladin GK. And rightfully so! After all the Death Guard termis are famous to be the toughest of their kin. Does anyone have an idea what that triangle thingy in the limited editon could be? Maybe a stratagem or psychic power selection wheel? Or a wounds counter for Morty? :) Can't wait for the complete rules, and of course the rest of the releases. My banker is planning his holidays already Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar K. Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 And rightfully so! After all the Death Guard termis are famous to be the toughest of their kin. Does anyone have an idea what that triangle thingy in the limited editon could be? Really good question, they have made something like it for AoS too but that was for their Allegiance Abilities so I really have no idea what they plan for it. What could be possible is that it's just 3 sets of wheels that count to 12 or something, so you can indeed keep track of either your health, stratagems, victory points, command points, basically a little bit of all of the above. Which would actually be a welcome thingy I feel, it's a nice way to seperate X points with something that isnt dice, as it's way too easy to pick those dice up to roll attacks with and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathor42 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I was excited seeing a terminator swinging a plague flail I'm going to need so many terminators to make all the choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I wonder what options the terminators can take as If they all can take flails then it will be pretty damn brutal :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnok Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Depending on the details, I might actually go for the Limited Edition this time. Those counters better be metal though, and I need to know about the rest as well. If in doubt, I'm fine with the regular codex too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoGuy Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 The counters seem to have a reflective quality which would suggest that they are metal. I'll get the limited edition, but only if it doesn't cost 320€ like the previous limited edition... From the contents it seems to be: 1x Collectors Edition Codex version (normal codex with different front and back cover) 1x Death Guard Datacards (Stratagems + Tactical Objectives) 6x Objective Marker 1x Mysterious Triangle 1x Pamphlet (could be a poster with some artwork on it or maybe a map of the galaxy etc). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I've been wanting to run Plaguewing since I started playing... I've always run 3 x 7 squads of Terminators, my 30K Death Guard army is nothing but Terminators (with Spartans) so I'd LOVE for it to be viable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'll get the limited edition, but only if it doesn't cost 320€ like the previous limited edition... Same here, although I'm not holding my breath. GW's pricing of limited editions is absolute insanity Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'll probably just grab the collectors one which is just the codex with the special cover as being in NZ the limited will be horrendously expensive, the collectors is $165 but should be worth it for the nicer cover. I really want to see what the dice look like as Ill be spending quite a lot just getting the collectors codex, data cards plus the plague brethren ( hey I just like the models and I'm sick of only having loyalist exclusives so it's nice having an actual chaos one plus a sucker for lovely artwork and fluff ) so the Death Guard dice better be worth it :D (please let the 3 be the symbol of Nurgle :D ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4876471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I plan to pick up the codex. I need to see the rules before I decide how I want to build my army, but I am really leaning towards Plaguewing. Mortarion, Typhus, Terminators and Land Raiders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I plan to pick up the codex. I need to see the rules before I decide how I want to build my army, but I am really leaning towards Plaguewing. Mortarion, Typhus, Terminators and Land Raiders. same here, i've been sat on the starter box DG and a pile of nurgle daemons before going fully in Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterkho Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 If the terminators don't have any other option than combiweapons, auto cannon/flamer and power weapons i am going to be really disappointed...i don't mind having extra kits but they could just as well update the CSM terminator kit.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 It looks like they have the plaguespewer, plus the big dark souls fly sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 Oh wow... I'm such a ridiculous sucker for collector's stuff like that. I MUST RESIST. I really enjoyed everything out of the DI box (aside from bell boy). I've played with, and against DG enough to know that this codex is probably going to put them in a very good place (hopefully for years to come). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar K. Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 More news! Directly from: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/death-guard-warlord-traits-stratagems-and-relicsgw-homepage-post-2/STRATAGEMS Great Stratagem for sure and the best spoiled one in my opinion. It allows DG to really optimize the use for Poxwalkers as bodyguards for more relevant units. Revealed before but still kind of nice. I don't think this is the type of Stratagem that will be used often due to it's cost. Nontheless extra Mortal Wounds are good in particular scenario's. Especially against Shield Terminators and the like. A perfectly cool one. For 1 CP I actually think this one can show up quite often. Auto Mortal Wounds here are legit because the deepstrikers are also often those with high Armour (Terminators).ARTEFACTSFantastic for Daemon Princes, likely the best in their book aswell. Cool enough. Between Thypus and Mortarion it isn't unlikely you will want to supplement those power houses with regular characters and this makes Psykers allright. Solid too.WARLORD TRAITS (half) Seems like a solid set up, offcourse we still need the other options to fully evaluate these. 6 Seems the most solid of the 3 here, 7" means 2+ units arn't difficult to affect.Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate77 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I'm super excited about the "Suppurating Plate." This will be the bane of all Horde Armies. I like Dolorus Knell, but honestly I think this should have been part of the Noxious Blightbringer's equipment to begin with (maybe it still will). As of now he's very meh..... Of all the Warlord traits, the +1 to DR roles is by far the best IMHO. BTW, thank you so much for posting this here Commissar K. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar K. Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Its a pleassure, Im really happy DG is getting all the love from GW. To be honest your also right about Dolorus Knell, I think it can serve a purpose if you indeed want to include a Noxious Blightbringer, which then becomes a nice Obnoxious Blightbringer heh :P I'm also looking forward to which of the Warlord Traits is found on Mortarion, they pretty much all makes sence.In any case the Death Guard are what I consider the first "new" 8th edition army and I believe GW will try to do their best to make them as interesting as possible and they are really succeeding in my opinion. Even moreso if their CSM Datasheet entry will be the same in their upcomming Codex.Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Assuming the plague-burst crawler's artillery piece is worth taking and a plague weapon Arch-Contaminator is potentially way superior to Revoltingly Resilient since its basically a limited version of Guiliman's aura on a potentially far cheaper chassis. Exalted Champions are amazing and since outside of power fists basically all Plague marine melee weapons are plague weapons this trait basically makes the warlord into a better version of the Exalted Champion. If you want to not take wounds on your warlord you can do so quite easily until you're starting to lose anyway. Revoltingly Resilient is basically just a simpler version of one of the generic traits and arguably worse than Unholy Fortitude from the regular chaos marine codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwyf Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I was weighing if I was going to include my nurgle DP in a list but after seeing the suppurating plate...WOW. Put him in CC and dare anything to swing at him. Good gravy that looks awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Assuming the plague-burst crawler's artillery piece is worth taking and a plague weapon Arch-Contaminator is potentially way superior to Revoltingly Resilient since its basically a limited version of Guiliman's aura on a potentially far cheaper chassis. Exalted Champions are amazing and since outside of power fists basically all Plague marine melee weapons are plague weapons this trait basically makes the warlord into a better version of the Exalted Champion. If you want to not take wounds on your warlord you can do so quite easily until you're starting to lose anyway. Revoltingly Resilient is basically just a simpler version of one of the generic traits and arguably worse than Unholy Fortitude from the regular chaos marine codex.Revolting Resilence is actually pretty strong way more than unholy fortitude, it adds 1 to any Disgusting Resilence roll most DG stuff already has DR which is a 5+ so with the trait it's now essentially a 4+ save that's pretty awesome on something like a daemon prince (especially combined with the armour relic) or even Mortarion if he has it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozo69pd Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Silly question but can Unique characters take artifacts? Can I put the 2+ armor on mortarion? Or the smite staff on Typhus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335290-new-death-guard-in-8th-edition/page/11/#findComment-4877888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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