Irbis Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Is it just me not reading the Index hard enough (only took cursory glance at BA so far) or is he indeed missing? The other SC character, captain Artemis of DW, is in the book, so I thought Karlaen will get the rules in 8th too... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) Karlaen is gone. Now there is only "Blood Angels Captain in Terminator Armour" Edited June 22, 2017 by Xenith Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Karlaen is gone. Now there is only "Blood Angels Terminator Captain" Which is nice, because it's not like he was in the same book in the fluff depicted as this model.... Panda_Saurus_Rex and Sun Reaver 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_Saurus_Rex Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Karlaen is gone. Now there is only "Blood Angels Terminator Captain" Which is nice, because it's not like he was in the same book in the fluff depicted as this model.... Also it's not like 1/3 of the entire book was about him specifically along with a 2 page spread called "Karlean's Strike Force" with a THIRD page detailing all the units of said force. Demoulius, Helias_Tancred and Sun Reaver 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Karlaen didnt get used so much in 7th due to the weird weapon combo, which is incidentally a pretty decent one in 8th! #wheresarenos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Did all of the characters from the campaign boxes get 8th edition rules? Obviously Eldrad did as he was an existing character anyway, but what about Krom Dragongaze, the Spawn of Cryptus and Grukk Face-Rippa? If they all did then it seems odd that Karlaen was left out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just Krom, as far as I know. It always has to be the wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) I can confirm that Krom Dragongaze did get a Datasheet. I've already made a Datasheet for Shas'la Kais for the T'au guys, I could whip up a Karlaen too. Edited June 22, 2017 by Grotsmasha Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Did all of the characters from the campaign boxes get 8th edition rules? Obviously Eldrad did as he was an existing character anyway, but what about Krom Dragongaze, the Spawn of Cryptus and Grukk Face-Rippa? If they all did then it seems odd that Karlaen was left out. If you can go into a GW and show me the model marked clearly as "Captain Karlaen" then he should have rules. Sadly he's sold as a "Blood Angels Captain In Terminator Armour." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 Funny thing is, even in Deathstorm the mini was labelled "Blood Angels Captain In Terminator Armour" but the booklet inside specifically said to use included Karlaen rules, sooo... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Did all of the characters from the campaign boxes get 8th edition rules? Obviously Eldrad did as he was an existing character anyway, but what about Krom Dragongaze, the Spawn of Cryptus and Grukk Face-Rippa? If they all did then it seems odd that Karlaen was left out. If you can go into a GW and show me the model marked clearly as "Captain Karlaen" then he should have rules. Sadly he's sold as a "Blood Angels Captain In Terminator Armour." You can't do that for Krom Dragongaze either though.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can confirm that Krom Dragongaze did get a Datasheet. I've already made a Datasheet for Shascla Kais for the T'au guys, I could whip up a Karlaen too. His old rule of a fixed warlord trait for reserve bonus due to tactical acumen is redundant in this edition, so can probably be replaced with +1 CP. Did all of the characters from the campaign boxes get 8th edition rules? Obviously Eldrad did as he was an existing character anyway, but what about Krom Dragongaze, the Spawn of Cryptus and Grukk Face-Rippa? If they all did then it seems odd that Karlaen was left out. If you can go into a GW and show me the model marked clearly as "Captain Karlaen" then he should have rules. Sadly he's sold as a "Blood Angels Captain In Terminator Armour." You can't do that for Krom Dragongaze either though.... Oh, but you can Silas7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppaby Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 When the BA codex is released there may be rules for both him and Death Company Chaplain in it. The Indexes on sale only include characters that are named on their box - as said above the Karlean Model is simply 'Blood Angels Captain in termy Armour' in his box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Hmmm, my previous search for "Krom" yielded no results, and yet, there he is... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 When the BA codex is released there may be rules for both him and Death Company Chaplain in it. The Indexes on sale only include characters that are named on their box - as said above the Karlean Model is simply 'Blood Angels Captain in termy Armour' in his box. Honestly though I hope that "Death Company Chaplain" doesn't come back; creating a datasheet for a non-special character with a fixed loadout just to match a model which could already be represented with existing rules seemed stupid to me in 7th and will seem no less stupid in 8th. Quixus and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 Oh, but you can Funny thing is, he has entry because he is a character in PC game and as a part of marketing scheme not only said game got special entry in GW store, the characters in it were renamed too. Honestly though I hope that "Death Company Chaplain" doesn't come back; creating a datasheet for a non-special character with a fixed loadout just to match a model which could already be represented with existing rules seemed stupid to me in 7th and will seem no less stupid in 8th. Sadly there is a precedent already, DW terminator captain... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Can someone please tell me what made The Hammer of Baal different to a normal Thunder Hammer in 7th? Need to know for the datasheet. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Master crafted I think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 How would that transfer in 8th? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 +1 damage over a normal weapon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 So D4 for the hammer, which is tasty Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Perfect :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 T-hammer is fixed 3 damage anyway. Maybe make Karlean's like the Tempest Hammer and drop the -1 to hit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 T-hammer is fixed 3 damage anyway. Maybe make Karlean's like the Tempest Hammer and drop the -1 to hit? That feels a little more BA. An elegant weapon... for a more civilized age. Sun Reaver, Karhedron, Demoulius and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 They should also start calling the Sanguinary Priest what he is: Corbulo. Silverson 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335416-so-wheres-karlaen/#findComment-4793264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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