Brother Navaer Solaq Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 i was wondering what is the benefit of using khan in the new edition. His ability to add 1 S to units in the fight phase doesn't seem that great when compared to the smurf characters like calgar. I am sad he lost his army wide ability to allow transport to scout in 7th edition, but that is the past. Q. how would white scar players use khan in their list now in 8th edition? Q. does his ability add +1S before a melee wargear? e.g. PF, TH, CF Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathaius Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 - Kor'sarro benefits choppy units now, so load up on Company Vets armed with CC (especially swords IMO) and be in your opponent's face ASAP. Normal bikers have an extra attack too, thanks to the Chainsword rules. He can still be useful IMO. 2 - after modifiers Kallas, Filius and Aothaine 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4808633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filius Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 … aaand Close Combat Units fit well with the New Chapter Tactic. Ranwulf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4834298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extropian Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 He's also lethal at killing characters for his cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4835705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) I'm thinking of retooling and painting my former IH bike vets into White Scars w/ Khan. I've switched to spamming dreads w/ my IH's, but I want to use my bike models and some more of my JP's in the future. Anyways, it seems to me this squad would take advantage of his ability nicely: Kor'sarro Khan [7 PL, 132pts]: On MoondrakkanCompany Veterans on Bikes [14 PL, 253pts]. Space Marine Biker Veteran: Plasma gun, Power lance, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker Veteran: Plasma gun, Power lance, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker Veteran: Power lance, Storm shield, Twin boltgun. Space Marine Biker Veteran: Power lance, Storm shield, Twin boltgun. Veteran Biker Sergeant: Storm shield, Thunder hammer, Twin boltgun Is this dumb? I haven't played w/ White Scars tactics in years. Edited August 3, 2017 by Timur Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4842115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuul Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 - Kor'sarro benefits choppy units now, so load up on Company Vets armed with CC (especially swords IMO) and be in your opponent's face ASAP. Normal bikers have an extra attack too, thanks to the Chainsword rules. He can still be useful IMO. 2 - after modifiers regarding 2nd - its actually before, so TH becomes S10. (this was FAQed) Dosjetka 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4842583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Gonna run my Grey Talons as WS count as. Choppy biznizz. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4842868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Tested him a bit in a Fate of Konor game, and I kinda liked him (please don't mind that I used a blood angel army, I never played White Scars and I wanted to play it). He is VERY killy, as he killed a Chaos Sorcerer on Terminator armor AND a Chaos Lord (the one in the following photo). His 6' bubble is also freaking excellent for Stormravens, as he is one of the few characters that can keep up with them and keep giving them the ability. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4845842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 How did you equip his Bodyguard? Did he have one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4845864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 How did you equip his Bodyguard? Did he have one? I picked three units of Bikes (two meltas and an attack bike), and a Stormseer. He was still full wounds in the last turn. Ran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4845886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadian16th Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 - Kor'sarro benefits choppy units now, so load up on Company Vets armed with CC (especially swords IMO) and be in your opponent's face ASAP. Normal bikers have an extra attack too, thanks to the Chainsword rules. He can still be useful IMO. 2 - after modifiers regarding 2nd - its actually before, so TH becomes S10. (this was FAQed) Got a link? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4850326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Navaer Solaq Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 - Kor'sarro benefits choppy units now, so load up on Company Vets armed with CC (especially swords IMO) and be in your opponent's face ASAP. Normal bikers have an extra attack too, thanks to the Chainsword rules. He can still be useful IMO. 2 - after modifiers regarding 2nd - its actually before, so TH becomes S10. (this was FAQed) Got a link? FYI. Answered by GW. This is found in warhammer community designer's commentary pdf file. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-4890680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geektom Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 So just to clarify, I can still equip my Khan with Moondrakkan, even though it is not in the latest Codex? Because it has a separate entry in the Index? Why would they leave it out of the Codex, I wonder? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-5005641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
breng77 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 They left it out because there is no model for it. As to Khan, I don't think his buffs are worth the points. +1S in combat is nice but not great for most things, I wish it were +1 to wound, because +1 S only helps against very few things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-5005667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geektom Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Never underestimate the power of fluff! I know what you mean, though- might be able to get away with a generic Captain on Bike. Correct me if I am wrong, but there is not a current model for say, Chaplain on bike, but they still have the current rules for it, right? Or is it ba cause there has *never* been a Khan model on bike? I know it is like 150th on the priority list, but sure would be nice to have an updated bike kit, too. They are really, really, REALLY old and boring. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-5005695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
breng77 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 There are no rules in the book for Chaplain on a bike, there are for captain on a bike though., that is the only bike HQ I see in the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-5007409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morovir Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 That's because GW still sell the White Scars biker captain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-5018599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyx of the Night Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 - Kor'sarro benefits choppy units now, so load up on Company Vets armed with CC (especially swords IMO) and be in your opponent's face ASAP. Normal bikers have an extra attack too, thanks to the Chainsword rules. He can still be useful IMO. 2 - after modifiers regarding 2nd - its actually before, so TH becomes S10. (this was FAQed) Got a link? FYI. Answered by GW. This is found in warhammer community designer's commentary pdf file. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/ It's the very first question in there, and it says that first you multiply or divide, then you add or subtract. So a TH in the Khan's bubble would be strength 9, 4 x2 +1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-5031459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 It's the very first question in there, and it says that first you multiply or divide, then you add or subtract. So a TH in the Khan's bubble would be strength 9, 4 x2 +1. If you reread it, it says that the modification from weapons (ie, the 2x) happens last. If Khan was 2x and a model has a Power Axe (+1 S), then that model would attack with S4 x2 +1, for a total of 9; a Thunder Hammer with Khan as is, is S 4 +1 x2 for a total of 10. Dosjetka and Aothaine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-5034323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Khan is amazing. I'm just surprised he doesn't have the Chapter Master rule to re-roll all failed hits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336032-korsarro-khan-8th/#findComment-5040716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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