Bmseifer Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 So according to the faq the points for our Low LR is including wargear. Why would we ever take a godhammer instead of this beast? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 The Terminus Ultra has no transport capacity at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4806274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 LoW slot, no transport capacity, can't be driven by Chronus. Not really strong reasons, but they're there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4806479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 LoW slot - This doesn't bother me much. With the freedom of detachments now it's pretty easy to ignore Transport - This is the big difference. I'm not convinced though that LR's are the go to choice for bringing terminators this edition. I'd rather use a Stormraven or even deepstrike them. Chronus - Still undecided on this one. Depends on how he works really which isn't clear to me. Since his BS replaces the vehicle he's in, does that remove the vehicles damage tables degrading BS? This is my personal opinion but I only bring the godhammer as a lascannon gun platform. For this reason the Terminus is miles ahead in efficiency for me, bringing double the number of shots for only ~40pts more. Make sure to have a captain or even guilliman close by and we will be inflicting alot of damage each turn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4806589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 You're convincing me to build one... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4807308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Yeah at 400 points it's a steal. The handful of battle reports and general scuttlebutt that I have seen indicated that people were very happy with Terminus Ultra even when they paid 600 points for it. I'm just trying to figure out where I can get the lascannons... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4807341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) I'm thinking the sponsons from a predator as single lascannons mounted where the front hatches are on the sides and a razorback turret with twin lascannons instead of the heavy bolter. Atleast that's what the first hit when googling Terminus Ultra seem to show Should be plug and play. It's actually a pretty decent alternative to a Spartan. It has 4 less wounds and lack the behemoth rule but it comes a bit cheaper and doesn't have the relic rule that makes it impractical to bring and it can split it's firepower better Edited July 3, 2017 by Bmseifer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4807465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arisen Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Thanks for starting this thread; I had totally forgotten I had these just laying around! http://i63.tinypic.com/347irz9.jpg I'd forgotten I ordered a few sets a few years back to turn the rhinos from the old battleforce into razorbacks. Glad I ordered them then because it seems they're OOP. When I get one assembled, I'm sure going to try one. And if I like it enough, I might just assemble the second one as well :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4808317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Back in the day you could order a Terminus Ultra upgrade sprue and it contained the Predator sponson and Razorback turret sprues. Never got around to building one... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4808328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 For 400 points, I will certainly try it ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4808351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Where was this confirmed?? 400 points is a bargain! Put Guilliman next to it :-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4808982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Good point, it doesn't say "includes" or "excludes". The FAQ solves it though: Page 203 – Space Marine Points Values, Lords of War Add the following text beneath ‘Points Per Model’: ‘(Including Wargear)’ Edited July 5, 2017 by Seahawk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Game changer, truly. Terminus Ultra and Guilliman will bring many units down! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The only thing is... it's a LoW. I've seen some groups (not mine persay) allowing for 1 LoW, so the choice for those people is between the Terminus Ultra and Roboute. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Pfft. GUNTANK! I mean, where's the problem with that? ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The TU being a LOW makes it possible for you to field one of the Relic LoWs from ForgeWorld, a very nice benefit the other 'raiders don't provide... Of course, ideally that wouldn't be an issue to begin with shandwen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I wouldn't mind trying it for fun but making one could be a touch pricey. It is funny to me that I thought they wouldn't make rules for models that don't exist? Or is this a model somewhere I'm unaware of? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmseifer Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 After googling a bit it was a limited edition land raider that actually came with predator sponson sprue and razorback turret sprue. Don'¨t know when it was sold though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 It was once a kit, yes. Around 5TH edition Apoc introduction Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Yep, back in the day when such "Lords of War" could only be seen in Apoc. Ah, those were the days ... If you are magnetizing sponsons, then you could potentially save space and money to have a TU ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336050-terminus-ultra/#findComment-4809841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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