Noxnoctis22 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 After looking through the latest IA Index I'm thinking of picking up my first FW model. Right now it's a toss up between the models listed below. Care to weight in on the pros & cons of each for a RG army? Relic Sicaran Battle Tank Whirlwind Hyperios Relic Whirlwind Scorpius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Poe Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 I've been teetering on the edge when it comes to buying a Sicaran as the first tank for my RG. The model is really nice and I can justify it fitting the fluff because it is a "fast" tank haha. Sicaran has my vote. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxnoctis22 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 Yeah the Sicaran is a great FAST tank, kinda why it's at the top of the list. The other 2 are more for a range support which I feel like the the kind of RG I've been running needs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Poe Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 The Accelerator cannon and obvious Lascannon sponson upgrade will all come with a 48" range Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 I'll stack up on the humble tarantulas. Cheap firepower, hold objectives, prevent deep striking. The relic stuff won't find its way to my Raptors for fluff reasons, except maybe for one or two flyers... Race Bannon, WAR and Mr. Poe 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Poe Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 I'll stack up on the humble tarantulas. Cheap firepower, hold objectives, prevent deep striking. The relic stuff won't find its way to my Raptors for fluff reasons, except maybe for one or two flyers... Can you still buy camo-netting and deep strike those bad boys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Nope. Just deploy them regularly (whole unit at the same deployment step, but separately) and they count as separate units from then on. Always fire at the nearest target in LoS (no range/direction restriction like in 7th), HB and LC prefer infantry/vehicles. They are quite fragile when targeted by lascannons, but will weather a lot of small arms fire. Considering 27p for twin heavy bolters and 45p for twin assault cannon, they will always fit. HB will just keep deep strikers away and weed out chaff infantry while being too cheap to target, assault cannon will draw more fire, but has a considerable output. On the long run I'll probably take both. Multi melta is bad, twin lascannon is useful but quite expensive (10p platform, 50p weapon). Noxnoctis22 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Poe Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Hmmm...food for thought. I'm always looking for ways to bring none vehicular heavy weapons to the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Fire Raptor for me. Removes so much need for anti-infantry firepower. Nusquam 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 The Raptor is awesome. It's a female dog to assemble though. Race Bannon, Biscuittzz, Valaas and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 The Raptor is awesome. It's a female dog to assemble though. Exactly what is puting me off getting one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4810879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxnoctis22 Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 I was also looking into the Xiphon Pattern Interceptor. Thoughts of that pick? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4811549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I was also looking into the Xiphon Pattern Interceptor. Thoughts of that pick? A friend (tournament enthusiast) already called it the most powerful choice in the index, and ordered 3. Without personally knowing more, I'd say you can't really go wrong with it. Noxnoctis22 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4811920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I've tried the Xiphon, Eagle, and Typhon thus far. The Xiphon got a lot better and stayed the same cost so now it's quality. The Eagle is also gold. As much as a land raider but it has serious troop capacity and firepower. Being a flyer means it needs to live exactly one turn. The Typhon is pure terror with a Chapter Master nearby. The Raptor I can only imagine as being pure quality. With Shrike/Issodon dropping nearby for an alpha strike I can imagine it doing some serious work. The sicarans are pure quality as well. I'm eyeing the punisher variant for bogs/hordes/blobs. The regular is a good mix and the venator with las is a good threat. The Tarantulas rules are funky and too limiting in my opinion. The Deathstorms managed to stay horrid somehow. This one makes me really sad, I love the concept. Had it been 5 of each weapon/5 full shotting attacks it would have been phenominal. As it is now it doesn't scale well against large single units. It is only good against MSU, even then having to land 9"+ away and having such a short range means its not hitting much. The Javelins, now with their new FAQ added -1 to hit beyond 8" just got even better. Biscuittzz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4813880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheStampede Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 What about the Land Speeder Tempest? I love the look of it and it seems like a better fast assault craft than the standard Land Speeder for a similar price, when compared to a Typhoon or Tornado. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4818230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Well, the tempest is quite expensive, and its "temporarily become a flyer" rule makes even less sense than before, considering every weapon is Heavy. If it becomes a flyer, it can't shoot at all, if it moves at all, it just hits on a 4+. Compare to a stormtalon and you'll just forget about the tempest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4818239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I'm looking to get 3. Absolutely love the model. So I'll probably run them as Typhoons or Tempests. Possibly javelins as I despise the model, but I don't know how the size compares. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4818255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I've said it elsewhere: FW + Tempest = :facepalm: It's a great model and I've loved it since it was introduced. For 8th edition, it is almost prohibitively expensive (unless you are using PL). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4818301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kua Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 What Nese and Race said. ^^ The Javeling, though, reads quite good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4818608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheStampede Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Anyone have a side by side of the Javelin and Tempest? I want to see if the former will fit in foam cut for the latter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4819055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The Scorpius. It's by the far the most over the top in terms of rules. I used two in a chaos list (where there's no relic restriction) in conjunction with a lord for rerolls to hit. My opponents universally hated them and would usually concede by turn 2 Noxnoctis22 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336261-ia-index-picks-for-rg/#findComment-4826584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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