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Hi! So I was given a random assault intercessor by my son, which I converted into a vanguard vet using spare parts I had in my bits box, including a sanguinary guard jump pack. This has inspired me to start a Raven Guard army, as I’ve always loved the idea of an all-beaky force. Here’s the first guy. I’m quite proud of the hand painted symbol on the shoulder pad. Found a great image at www.fromthewarp.blogspot.com which gave me a step-by-step method that made this really much simpler than I thought it would be. Also posted a screenshot of that image in case it’s handy for anyone. Next up will be my attempt at Kayvaan Shrike!

A Murder of Crows Time for yet another plog from the Monkey. More marines, coz that's what I do best, but also my first attempt at actual Primaris marines, not just scavanging their bodies to make truescale armies. This willjust be a little project (to begin with anyway) but its something I'vereally wanted to do for a while. I want to make an all-Phobos Kill-Team with a shamanic/tribal feel that has a very strong crow motif running throught. Not Raven Guard, Crows. The Murder. This idea came to me a good while ago and I've been slowly building up a littl bitz box of trinkets and things to make them out of. It started when I first saw the Corvus Cabal models for Warcry. I absolutly love them and my first thought was they'd be great as RG scouts or something. But they're too grisly and dark for RG I felt. I shelved the idea in my head and went back to other projects. The idea kept popping up every now and then and when that happens I know at some point I have to put knife-to-plastic and build something. So I got a bunch of Phobos marines, a box of Corvus Cabal and scrounged for several sets of the trinkets from the RG upgrade frames. First up is my leader, a Lirbrarian. Mainly because I think the model is a great fit for my theme and also because I really wanted one for that shamanic feel I was trying to capture. Here are his begginings: Super please with the feel so far.I want to actually do a lot more trinkets, do-dads, what-nots and feathers on him but I didn't want to use up all my bitz on the first model. Once I get a few more up and running I'll do a second pass on him and go to town a little more. I also want to all a lightning effect to his hands with wire but it's something I've never attempted before so I'm hesitant to start. What do you think? I've made a little head-way on the first of my Reivers and Eliminators too but nothing worth showing off yet. Keen to see what they other guys turn out like so should be a few more birds popping up here soon. Till then. CAW! PHM

Gather, children of Corax. Gather within the shadows you have mastered, away from prying eyes, and plan out with your brothers your next strikes against those who dare to oppress mankind, be they xenos or traitors. We are all the sons of the Nineteenth Legion, regardless of the colors we choose to wear when we slit the enemy's throat. + The goal of this thread is to bring together players of the Nineteenth Legion, whether they collect the legion before the Second Founding or one of its successor chapters, as well as provide an index of all Raven Guard-related project logs on this forum. As such, please provide a link to your workshop when you come to name your company here. I've been helped by Flint13, SlaveToDarkness and forte. Speaking of the latter, he's improved the badge I'd prepared for the occasion for all those who wish to bear it: I'll use my name for exemple to show what it will look like: Ask here if you want your own badge. And now starts the documentation of the Nineteenth Legion's might! + +RAVEN GUARD LEGION+ 1st Battalion, 7th Chapter - White Ravens - Komrk 2nd Battalion, 7th Chapter (Post-Istvaan) - work in progress - KBA 9th Shadow Company - The Pale Magpie - Flint13 10th Battalion, 1st Tactical Wing - chaplain mortis 21st Shadow Company - old work in progress - The Hydra 99th Veteran Assault Company - The Psycho Company number unknown - Ghosts of Istvaan - jeremy1391 Company number unknown - post-Istvaan force - Barn Company number unknown - Strike Force Nightfall - Nusquam Company number unknown - work in progress 1 - work in progress 2 - angel robertson Company number unknown - suxdavide Company number unknown - Tyrant's Bane - Knight of the Raven +RAVEN GUARD CHAPTER & SUCCESSORS+ Raven Guard 1st Company - SyNidus Raven Guard 1st, 2nd and 5th Companies - work in progress - Shrieker Raven Guard 1st, 3rd, 8th and 10th Companies - Damo1701 Raven Guard 1st & 4th Companies - 4th Company detachment - The Call of the Hunt Raven Guard 1st & 4th Companies - work in progress - Voron Raven Guard 2nd Company - work in progress - GreyCrow Raven Guard 2nd Company - work in progress - Uginius Raven Guard 3rd Company - work in progress - Asamodai Raven Guard 3rd Company - Ulrik_Ironfist Raven Guard 3rd Company - Lord Ravenhood Raven Guard 3rd Company - Realityburn Raven Guard 4th Company - Tiger9gamer Raven Guard 4th Company - Jacques Corbin Raven Guard 4th Company - Valaas Raven Guard 4th Company - Bedouin2 Raven Guard 4th Company - work in progress - Chaplain Dosjetka Raven Guard 5th Company - dracpanzer Raven Guard 5th Company - work in progress - Race Bannon Raven Guard 7th Company - Darkthorns Raven Guard 8th Company - gallery - Brother Tiberus Raven Guard - Lord Lorne Walkier Raven Guard - Archon_77 Raven Guard - work in progress - pompeyladbfp Raven Guard - work in progress - Nostalgia Raven Guard - Vindicet Honorem forward strike detachment - thewarriorhunter Black Guard - work in progress - deathspectersgt7 Raptors 2nd Company - Inquisitor Eisenhorn Raptors 2nd Company - luke6116 Raptors 2nd Company - Vulkan454 Raptors 2nd Company - work in progress - mithrilforge Raptors 5th Company - work in progress - The Yak Raptors 10th Company - work in progress - war009 Revilers 3rd Company - Retribution Force Nasalle - Daemonifugue Revilers 7th Company - Reviler Death Spectres - work in progress - deathspectersgt7 Crimson Spectres - Index Astartes - Cormac Airt Ghost Warriors - Index Astartes - GreyCrow Sable Hawks - Index Astartes - trub Eagle Eyes - Index Astartes - work in progress - JeffTibbetts Predators 2nd Company - RG-Predators Crimson Shrikes - the Fourth Shrine War - kobrakei The Sons of Ananta - Index Astartes - gallery - The Sons of Ananta Sons of Corax - ltvyper Void Hawks - work in progress - Tyriks Night Claws - work in progress - Mr. Poe unknown - Antarius unknown - Helias Tancred/Kyvus Garn

I’m a relapsed hobbyist, dragged back into the 41st millennium by some friends having not collected or played since about 2008. I’ve always been drawn to the Raven Guard by their fluff, and the fact that they’re (theoretically) easy to paint for a reluctant and lazy painter like myself. Therefore, I’ve obtained all my old models from my parents’ loft, and purchased a few new bitz. I’m a kitbasher at heart - I love to convert models, try out new poses or switch equipment around, but I’m starring out slowly to ease myself back into it. Anyway, I’ve done a little work on a few things over the last few days. My friends and I are planning to reintroduce ourselves to the hobby via the Heralds of Ruin Kill Team rules, which will allow me to ease myself back into building and painting. I will be playing a small detachment of Raven Guard, which so far consists of 5 sniper scouts, 3 Sternguard Veterans, and a Librarian who I’m still working on and is currently in pieces. Accountability is a big motivator for me, which is why I hope publishing my work on here will keep me going, and I’d also appreciate any criticism or advice more experienced hands might offer. Therefore, as my first post, I present the fruits of this week’s work. Three Sternguard Veterans based on a tactical squad chassis. Tactical scopes and stick mags from Anvil Industry to make the special issue bolsters stand out, and an attempt to pose the squad as firing from a static position (except the one guy who’s firing while reviewing his auspex data because he’s got mad skillz). I still need to get some 3mm plastic rod to make suppressors on the bolters though. Some not-very-heavily converted scouts. Heads are from Anvil Industry’s Black Ops range - I like how they have some of the MkVII helmet aesthetic but have the additional optics. Basing will follow when I get the materials. I love the idea of a small RG task force sneaking through a city, so all of my bases will be urban. The Sternguard will likely get some form of paving or concrete-look scheme, and I’m pondering buying some mesh or diamond-cut plasticard to give the scouts the appearance of shooting from an elevated walkway or gantry.

When stealth is not an option and protection is needed we shall call on the Armoured Fists of the Raven Guard to bring us into battle to destroy the enemies of the Emperor. "Victorus aut Mortis" To continue the momentum of the 'Talons Reach' event and 'Hidden Hands of the Emperor' and continue our army builds for 8th Edition, the Raven Guard Forum is hosting a new challenge and the first for 2018. The challenge is open to the Raven Guard (40K & 30K) and all successor chapters, both known and created by you and will run from the 15th of January through to the 15th of March. The rules are simple: vow to paint at least 1 unit listed below you'd like for your army. Land Raider- any Variants including Forge World Spartan Proteus Chapter Approved 2017 VDR Land Raider (must be legal to the rules in Chapter Approved) Storm Eagle Repulsor * If you already have a completed unit listed above you are ahead of the curve. You can participate by building at least 1 vehicle from the Dedicated Transport option to support your forces. Each Vow should be: The Overlord Race Bannon, demands a Land Raider, I, <State your Username> shall oblige him with one for the Glory of <Insert your Chapter here> "by 11:59 PM on March 15, 2017. Each vow should be accompanied by a before photo, showing the model/models in their pre-painted state (under coated is fine) (. Upon completion, post a photo of the completed model(s). More than one angle would be nice, but not required. It is preferred the quality be at least for table-top use with three different colors used (washes do not count). The progress will be updated every few days. Image for signature line vows : Original discussion found here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/342908-next-ravenspire-section-build/ Particapants War009- Raptors Land Raider- Vowed (before shown) MajorNese- Raptors Razorback- Vowed (Before Shown) COMPLETED Duz_- Raven Guard Repulsor- Vowed (Before shown) -COMPLETED Seriade- Raven Guard Repulsor- Vowed (Before shown) Hellstrike- Black Guard Repulsor- Vowed (Before shown) Dusterthreeonesix- Raven Guard Land Raider Crusader (Before Shown) Race Bannon- Ravenguard Teminus Ultra - COMPLETED 9x19 Parabellum- Ravenguard Predator

Project aim: Have a 500-point army fully ready for battle as soon as possible (tentative deadline: 31st July). Chapter of choice: Raven Guard Main inspiration: Mercay's 5th Company + + + + + + + + Battle-Brother Radomir Bann, Raven Guard 4th Company, 1st Tactical (aka a slightly more grimdark version of @Race Bannon )

News news news. Sorry I can't paste a link right now but there is a growing thread in the N&R forum about it. First note: in the advert, there is a half-half Chapter symbol next to the "Sub-Faction Rules" that shows Ultramarines and Raven Guard :tu: Frankly, this was to be expected, yet it is certainly a confirmation to me. This thread is to help us just gab about it. No doubt other threads will be made and/or expanded once more details come to light and after it's release. Let's keep the whi ... disappointments about spending money for an Index that will get trumped by the soon-to-be-released Codecies. I'm in the boat too.

Ok, I'm ready. I took a break from the hobby for a few years to focus on being a dad. With their age, I am able to devote some time to my favorite hobby. On my return, I decided to work on, and play with, my favorite Chapter since 2002. My need to be a special snowflake meant I avoided this through my DIY and eventually building a Raptors force. Still, the RG have always called to me, and I've answered. I have several projects that have waited to be completed, so I'm chewing through those before building a playable army. To start: these models have actually been finished for a few weeks. A tragic error while spray varnishing put them on hold to sharing. Chaplain - a classic from 2nd edition using Azrael's backpack and placed on the new sized base. Due to the left arm having studs, the Chapter badge was placed on the legs. Many thanks to Carlson793 work on Testor's decal paper. Hidden Content "Telion" - a Veteran Sergeant holding Nihilus. I decided to keep the small bases for Scouts. Ultramarine symbols were shaved and in my haste I failed to get an aquila put on the weapon. Oh well. To make the model special to me, the grey on the outside of the cloak is from Ral Partha Ghost Bear Grey - this was the color of my DIY Chapter (and yes, I played the hell out of some Battletech). Hidden Content Ninja Scout Squad 6 - Five metal scouts. By the Emperor these are super detailed and a pain in the to paint (or I suck that much). To link my history with the squad, the green on the grenades is Vallejo Model Color Russian Uniform Green which was used for my Raptors. The squad numbers come from GW decal sheet. Interestingly, the Sergeant's face is VGC Dead White, while the mooks' skin is VGC Bonewhite. I figured their transition to Space Marine would make their skin very pale, but not full white (yet). Hidden Content Thank you for reading/looking

+++ THE CALL TO ARMS HAS BEEN MADE... WILL THE SONS OF CORAX ANSWER? +++ In the wake of the Storm of Chaos breaking across the breadth of the Imperium, Rouboute Guilliman has called the Indomitus Crusade to take the fight to the enemy wherever they rear their heads. Guilliman's first request for aid has been sent out to all the first founding Chapters demanding they and their successors join the crusade at full chapter strength. With the Raven Guard heavily committed across the Damocles Warzone and the losses incurred during the fall of Cadia and during the Crusade to bring Guilliman to Holy Terra, the Raven Guard have called upon all the Sons of Corax to muster. Between them they can achieve a Chapter strength force and gift Guilliman's crusade the skills of the 'Hidden Hands of the Emperor'. "Victorus aut Mortis" As a temporary replacement for ETL, to continue the momentum of the 'Talons Reach' event and to celebrate the coming of 8th Edition, the Raven Guard Forum is Hosting the 'Hidden Hands of the Emperor' challenge. The challenge is open to the Raven Guard (40K & 30K) and all successor chapters, both known and created by you and will run from the 15th of June through to the 15th of September. The rules are simple: vow to paint any unit/units you'd like for your army. Unlike the ETL, as we are not competing against other forums, you can vow allies, as long as they are Imperial e.g. Inquisitor, Elysians etc. Each vow should be for the same unit type, so, if I want to vow a tactical squad and a scout squad, then you make 1 vow but declare both troop types. There is no limit to the number of vows you can make during the challenge. A vow must be completed before making another vow. Each Vow should be: I, (name), for the (Chapter name), vow to complete (model/models) by 11:59 PM on September 15, 2017. Each vow should be accompanied by a before photo, showing the model/models in their pre-painted state (under coated is fine) (with the exception of the Race Bannon bonus, see below). Upon completion, post a photo of the completed model(s). More than one angle would be nice, but not required. It is preferred the quality be at least for table-top use with three different colors used (washes do not count). The progress will be updated every few days and will also include a running total of our total forces, cheering milestones as we hit them e.g. Company strength. All participants can use the 'Oath Marker' below in their signatures to let everyone know that they are taking part: Awards: Upon completion of the event all participants will receive a personal banner with a 'pip' awarded for each troop type completed (this may be adjusted if different titles are used in 8th): HQ Elites Troops Fast Attack Heavy Support If a participant manages to complete a vow for each of the above, the Aquilla on the banner will also be 'lit'. There will also be three bonus awards available during the challenge: Race Bannon Challenge - complete a model to represent our hard working Raven Guard moderator, it can be a character or a rank an file trooper. I know a few have done this already so rather than you making another one, you can post your completed Race. (easy win for those who have done one before). If a participant completes the Race Bannon Challenge a Laurel Wreath will be added to the unit type 'pip' i.e. If a Sternguard Veteran Sergeant is modeled as Race, the Laurel will appear around the Elites 'pip' on the Banner. Flyer Challenge - A bonus 'Pip' will be awarded for those participants who vow and complete a Flyer choice, though this is not required to 'light' the Aquilla. Lord of War Challenge - A bonus 'Pip' will be awarded for those participants who vow and complete a Lord of War choice, though this is not required to 'light' the Aquilla. So get your brushes ready......the Hidden Hands of the Emperor ready for WAR!

I just played a 2k game against Black Templar with Imperial Fist allies. His was more of a test for IF allies, mine was a test for DA allies. My list: HQs Shrike Sammael(Corvex) Elites Vanguard Vet Squad - x10 Jump packs, 4x PWs, Sarge with P Axe and SS (RG) Venerable Dread - Drop Pod, MM Troops Sniper Scout Squad (DA) Tactical Marines - x10, Meltagun (RG) Scouts in LSS, Bolters (RG) Fast Attack Assault Marine Squad - x10 men, Meltabomb, CS, PW Ravenwing Black Knights x5 (DA) Heavy Stormraven - TLMM, TLPC(RG) Thunderfire ADL/Quadgun His list(Best I can recall): Emperors Champion IF Captain with PF Master of the Forge Conversion Beamer Command Squad with Apothecary Drop Pod x5 Man Crusader Squad x5 Man Sniper Scouts x10 Man IF Tac Heavy Bolter x10 Man IF Tac Heavy Bolter x9 Man Sternguard x5 Combi-melta x4 combi-plas Drop Pod x10 Man Vanguard with a large assortment of PW and SS loaded for bear ADL/Quadgun Mission: The Scouring Deployment: Dawn of War Deployment He won the roll off, he deployed first. There were a lot of ruins and some mysterious terrain. The objectives were almost perfectly divided. His ADL/QG were front on center with an objective behind it and a tall ruin. He put both Tac squads on either side of the QG behind the ADL with the MotF above and behind them in the ruin. The crusader squad was on my left in a ruin towards the left midfield objective. I deployed my TFC on my right flank in a ruin and the ADL/QG on my left using the ruin to box in an objective and put my AMs in it at the edge of my deployment. The BK/Sammael were outflanking. My Tac squad was in the 'Raven. I won the roll off for infiltrators. I put my Sniper Scouts in the ruin above the objective. Shrike on the VV infiltrated into a body of water 12" (LoS blocked by a ruin) from his right Tac squad, near the edge of my right and center tile edge. I put my LSS right next to them for the jamming beacon on the tile edge and behind another ruin. He put his Sniper Scouts in a ruin to my far right next to the board edge and an objective. I did not try to seize. The hunt had begun. Turn 1 Night-fighting in effect. The objective next to his IF tacs was worth 4 points, mine was worth 3, the one on the left was worth 1 and the center-ish one was worth 3 and the one near my TFC was worth 2 and the one near his snipers was worth 2. His objective was a grav-wave generator. The others were too far away. He was going to drop his Stern/IF Cap next to Shrike but he realized my LSS had a jamming beacon(He had fallen for it a few games back already) so he tried to drop it exactly 12" away almost in the exact center of the board. It scatted 10" in front of his QG. Bonus! He disembarked them on the opposite side of my VV/Shrike towards his ADL. He shuffled his eft IF Tac into the ruin to join with the MotF. His snipers took a wound off my TFC. His Conversion Beamer wounded some AMs but I saved them all. I was too far away/out of LoS for anything else. My QG intercepted his stern and killed 1. My objective was also a grav-wave. Ven Dread came down right next to his DP and in front of the ADL. The Dread disembarked with his DP between it and the QG. My AMs jumped up towards his Stern. VV/Shrike jumped over the ruin and were right in front of the right IF Tac squad. LSS followed the VVs. Snipers killed 2 Sterns. TFC whiffed. Dread ate his DP. First Blood to me. AMs tried to assault his stern but were short, even with WD. I shouldn't have shot at the stern. Their casualties made me fail the charge. VVs easily got into CC with his IF Tac squad. My VV Sarg with PA/SS challened his IF sarge. I lost 1 plain VV and he lost all 9 tac marines. 4 from Shrike alone and the rest from PWs. My sarge died in the challenge. He tried to break but I caught him and we were locked in CC. WHich was good. Turn 2 None of his reserves came in. He moved his stern towards my AMs. He killed off my TFC and killed 3 AMs from everything that could shoot them. Sterns only used bolt pistols. Shrike watched while the VVs killed the IF tac sarge and consolidated 5" towards the ruin with the MotF/IF Tac squad in it. The sterns assaulted my AM's and we tied combat. His captain broke off to fight my dread but a failed invul ID'd him. My 'Raven and BKs came in. I moved the 'Raven up about 20" where a DP blocked LoS from his QG. The BKs came in from the left side, which is where I wanted them. I knew he would send his Champ after Shrike so I wanted to set up Sammael to intercept. Shrike and crew hopped into the ruin with the IF Tacs. My lonely Tech ran towards the snipers. The Snipers/BKs/'Raven killed the crusader squad on the left. PotMS missile took a wound off the QG. Shrike assaulted the Tacs and refused the challenge. His sarg had a PF and I wanted to take no risks with Shrike. the VVs killed all but the MotF and a random Tac. He tried to break but I caught him. My dread charged in with the Stern and my AMs and won 3-1 wounds. He passed morale. Turn 3 His VV and CS/Champ came in. He planted his CS/CHamp right next to the ruin with Shrike. Just as planned. his VV landed next to my Tech. No idea why he did that. My QG intercepted them and killed one. His snipers headshot my Tech. Shrike maimed the MotF and the VV killed the last Tac. I consolidated 5" out of the ruin away from is CHamp. Dread/AM lost combat 2-0 due to the Dread whiffing but didn't break. His VV ran towards the 2 point objective and it was sabotaged and exploded killing none. Sammael and crew moved up next to his ADL and CS/Champ and unloaded killing 2. 'Raven flew up and unloaded killing 2 more. Tacs stayed inside. LSS moved up, scouts jumped out and killed the QG. Shrike and crew joined my Dread/AMs and slaughtered the stern. Sammael made the charge into the Champ and the last Vet. The BKs killed the Vet and Sammael and the Champ did no wounds. Turn 4 My Tacs jumped out and grabbed the 4 pointer. My SNipers huddled around the 3 pointer. His snipers grabbed the 2 pointer and the VVs made a break for my snipers. They were over 48" away so I wasnt worried. At this point he knew it was over so we just did Sammael vs Emperors Champion. Sammael won. Eternal Warrior was key here. Victory 10-3 me. 7 Objective Points, 1 Slay the Warlord, 1 First Blood, 1 Line-breaker. He got 2 Objective Points and Line-breaker. Over all it was fun. I expected his Stormtalon but was surprised he didnt bring it. Shrike/VV and Sammael/BK were two unstoppable pain trains. The support from my 'Raven and Snipers were perfect. Going second with SHrike/VV infiltrating so close was great. My LSS jamming beacon probably won me the game as SHrike/VV got in CC without a single casualty and I only lost 4 VV the whole game as they were in CC every turn they made their points back and more. Sammael is the perfect HQ hunter and Shrike is the perfect assassin. Winged Deliverance did a bunch of wounds but he saved them all. The re-rolls for charge range didnt really affect the game but were a nice back up.

After seeing you liked the WIP pictures in the Hidden Hand of the Emperor thread, here is a proper WIP thread for my RG project. This project already had a thread once. It was on the Sons-of-Corax forum, 5 to 7 years ago. This is how long I didn’t touch my 40k stuff, and am now resuming it hoping that the 8th will be some fun. I didn’t get many models actually finished back then, but started quite a few ideas waiting for completion still. Choice of placement in the background Sure, the company number on a Raven Guard power armour is just a tiny letter on the knee pad. But it is an important letter. It is giving information about who the warrior is serving with and beneath, whether the army is acting as a company or the single unit supporting another force by request of a foreign shadow-captain. When the project was started back then, it was dedicated to the 4th company. 4th company is a battle company not beset by prominent GW characters like Shrike (before he became chapter master) or Solari, there only were a few references in BL literature, namely the Ultramarine novels, and it was not half destroyed like the 5th company was. About everyone is building 4th company. Because… why would anyone like Shrike and the others? But on a second third thought several years later: Why choosing a company for what is not if one should choose one for what it is? If there are going to be several terminator units in addition to the obligatory vanguard veterans and maybe sternguard one day anyway, wouldn’t the 1st company make a much more appropriate thematic core of the army? Wouldn’t a widely unknown shadow captain of the 1st Company (who has a name since Kauyon but nothing more) come much closer to the headquarter tactician, who only puts on his venerable Terminator armour if he must, how I wish to see a RG leader instead of just another ninja, make the perfect main character for the project? Aren’t the reserve companies even less known and make the ideal source for tactical marines and whatnot in support of the 1st company instead of being the other way around? Also, since Kauyon, they have fancy names and the 7th comp captain an even more fancy title. ^^ Well, you see… The main problem is: Orange looks better with black than purple, but 7th has the more fancy Captain title. But for now I’ll stop bothering you with fluff thoughts and start showing some models. Pics! Just a few, there is more unfinished stuff in a more early stage of becoming. 1st Company Squad VIII, equipped with terminator armour: This is how far I got back then with actually painted models: Three terminators without bases. (But if anyone was wondering how to de-angel Space Hulk BA termies… I have unpainted pics from back then where one can see what actually is made from green stuff and where the changes are.) Yet-to-be-chosen reserve company squad II, tactical: (@ People wondering about the DA deco in the DV box.) It is not yet complete since I’m not sure about the armament of the Sergeant and the special weapon choice. And the heavy weapon anyway but I don’t see myself using the latter one soon. I’m considering giving the units both special weapons (making them 11 members each) and choosing depending of the plan. How do you solve this question? And here is my most current dilemma – the bikes. You see, I don’t like the design of the regular SM bikes. I have some Ravenwing bikes from the DV box, which are OK. I don’t have but am OK with scout bikes. But then, there are those I’m building now: The most right one is just an experiment in making a scout bike out of a regular one, it’s just there for comparison (isn’t worth the effort if one can simply by scout bikes). The other two have parts put in place for the photo, they partly aren’t glued. But I don’t know what bikes best to use as what. We have:The converted ones The Ravenwing ones Maybe the Scout ones if I buy some in the future And there are the following units using bikes: Scout Bikes (obviously) Regular Bikes Command Squad/Company Veterans on bikes Single characters on bikes To make things even more complicated, Scout and Ravenwing bikes follow the largely same design while the converted ones from the chaos bikes are clearly different, which makes the choice Scout for Scout / Converted for regular / Ravenwing for Veterans / no chars not that obvious as it might seem. I also could imagine: Converted for Scouts / Ravenwing for regular or vets / no chars And then there certainly are more and better options, that’s where I need your help…

There are several threads growing in various forums concerning the latest release, Shadow Wars: Armageddon. The current skill trees available include specific Chapters such as the Salamanders and Dark Angels and a group known as "Sons of Guilliman" ... but no Raven Guard skill tree. So, ideas for discussion: 1) What current skill tree do you think fits the Raven Guard (and/or the Successors)? 2) If you could wishlist a skill set, what would they be? 3) What plans do you have for your Scout unit to play SW:A? I've scattered some thoughts in other threads, yet may compile them here. I'll add more details in "my thread" when I get around to building the models ^_^

Sons of Corax Unit Discussions +++ CONNECTION ESTABLISHED +++ Sons of Corax! Through the millennia, our duties for the Imperium have not ended. The enemies against the Emperor are numerous. His armies continue to march toward, and be a bulwark against, the unceasing tide which seeks to drown His glorious work. Yet, hidden the shadows we plan and we wait. After we strike, we learn. Before we learn about our enemies, we must first know about ourselves: nosce to ipsum. Yet, we must also fully comprehend the tools of war at our disposal. We can thus know what force to apply in order to destroy. Your experience adds to the Codex Astartes. Victorus aut Mortis! +++ CONNECTION ENDS +++ The Raven Guard are well-known for their post-battle analysis. A performance review, so to speak. From pict-capture, survivor accounts and command node records, information is scrutinized to determine strengths and weaknesses at tactical and strategic levels. Optimization of resources and formations can make the difference between success and failure in the next engagement. This thread will aggregate future discussions with the intent to be placed with the "Resources" thread pinned above. The project will cull from the experienced; novices are encouraged to query and share ideas. Points of view from Successor Chapters are needed as well. Organization of future threads will be based on available sources: Units and Formations as they appear within the current Codex: Space Marine Formations within the Raven Guard section of Angels of Death Units and Formations from other source material such as Kauyon Thread discussion will start shortly after this notification. +++ Shadow Captain Shrike Captain / Chapter Master Librarian Chaplain