Dono1979 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 The biggest problem is that the fluff/canon information about ships and their classes are so inconsistent throughout the various sources that contradictions and holes exist everywhere. On top of that, and because of it, a lot of the novel authors then have to try and fill in the gaps and make assumptions which muddies the water even more or creates new areas of unknown.I think that safest thing to do would be to draw a line in the sand in regards to where the 'reliable' fluff begins. So for example everything published in BFG material is probably unreliable as it was not written with the Heresy in mind at all. Fingers crossed that FW release a BFG:HH one day in the not too distant future which would rewrite the Heresy naval fluff into a solid informative text of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saphrael Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Dark Angels- Invincible Reason Status: Unknown Technically correct, but since it's not active in the 41st millennium I think it's safe to assume it was destroyed at the betrayal at Caliban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Dark Angels- Invincible Reason Status: Unknown Technically correct, but since it's not active in the 41st millennium I think it's safe to assume it was destroyed at the betrayal at Caliban. Is it definitively stated to not be active by M41/42 or is it simply not mentioned? The Dark Angels have all the spacebound firepower they need in the form of The Rock, which is arguably the most powerful void combatant of any loyal Astartes chapter (only Phalanx or starforts can compete). It's possible that Invincible Reason was gifted to one of the Dark Angels' successor chapters during the Second Founding, for example, which would explain why no "modern" Dark Angels stories feature it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 It might also be that it could be featured in a future story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoption Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Another possible outcome for the Invincible Reason is that it was cannibalized to create the Rock. It probably takes really advance tech to create a space craft of that design. Since the Rock is literally part of the planet caliban that has been weaponized and tunneled out, the components to turn that hunk of rock into THE ROCK as we know it today had to have come from the Dark Angels fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhellblade Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Add the Eternal Crusader to the list. ADB's Black Legion states it is a Gloriana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Guilliman's flagship is 26km. Jeez, even larger than the VS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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