General Strike Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 While I'm waiting for the full Primaris range to be released, I'm considering my other army options while I wait. One that I have been considering is a full or near full dread army. Using Techmarines as HQs, and using the Vanguard Detachment to run a bunch of Dreadnoughts of various equipment. What is your suggestion for loadouts, which dreads to take, and what short comings the army will have? The biggest issue I see right now is lack of bodies, this edition really favors from massed bodies, and most elite armies will suffer against horde armies. This isn't really a new thing, but it's very pronounced this edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidNinja Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 So you could go full dreadnought, take a blood angels librarian and/or forgeworld Chaplain. I like the look of assault cannon, auto cannon dreads as the most versatile, I think venerables are great upgrades. All the forgeworld dreads take up heavy slots I believe and so could fit more into a detachment, contemptor mortiss come to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Here's the list that I've made so far. Vanguard Detachment #1 HQ Tech-Marine on Bike: Servo-Harness, Combi-Melta, Power Axe Elites Contemptor Dreadnought: Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Dreadnought CCW w/ storm bolter 4x Venerable Dreadnoughts: Assault Cannon, Twin Autocannon Heavy Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought: 2x Twin Lascannons Vanguard Detachment #2 HQ Techmarine on Bike: Combi-Plasma, Servo-Harness, Power Sword Elites 2x Venerable Dreadnoughts: Assault Cannon, Missile Launcher 2x Venerable Dreadnoughts: Twin Lascannon, Twin Autocannon Heavy Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought: 2x Kheres Assault Cannons That's 1988 out of 2000 points. Nurgleprobe 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrés Pacheco Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Maybe try to squeeze in a Deredeo for the ++ bubble? And I understand the use of tech marines as HQ, but with that many BS2+ shots, maybe a captain might be valuable for the rerolls. Just suggestions though, appreciate they're more mechanical than thematic. Bjorn might make a good HQ too, pricey for sure, but you get some buffs and a very resilient dread to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kua Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Also, with a 3rd HQ you could grab another CP. But aren’t there a little few close combat dreads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 @ Andrés: I do love the deredeo model, I could try to squeeze it in. @ Kua: You're right, I can do a third Vanguard detachment. I moved them around and adjusted them. Vanguard Detachment #1 HQ Tech-Marine on bike: Servo-Arm, Combi-Plasma, Power Sword Elites 3x Venerable Dreadnoughts: Assault Cannon, Twin Autocannons Heavy Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought: 2x Twin Lascannons Vanguard Detachment #2 HQ Captain on Bike: Combi-Plasma, Lightning Claws Elites Venerable Dreadnought: Assault Cannon, Missile Launcher 2x Venerable Dreadnoughts: Twin Lascannons, Twin Autocannons Vanguard Detachment #3 HQ Tech-Marine on Bike: Servo-Arm, Combi-Grav, Power Sword Elites Ironclad Dreadnought: Chainfist, Meltagun, Hurricane Bolter, Assault Launchers, Hunter Killer Missile 2x Venerable Dreadnoughts: Twin Heavy Flamers, CCW w/ Storm Bolter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Corbin Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Maybe take a a Stormraven or 2 to drop in Ironclads. I would kit the basic dreads with Autocannons or Lascannons and Missile Launcher. Have the Venerables walk/run for midfield objectives with their Assault Cannons and Flamers. I agree, a Techmarine on a bike is mandatory. Consider taking a Thunderfire Cannon in a Heavy slot or 2. It's yet another Techmarine to camp near your fire support Dreadnoughts, and it would mitigate your problems with hordes. This edition, the gun is a vehicle that shoots using its own profile, the Techmarine just has to stay close, so he can fix it or a nearby Dreadnought, if he himself has no targets in range. General Strike 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeratil Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The FW Chaplain dread is an HQ if you want to go full dread. There are also a couple of named dreadnoughts in the FW book, specifically a Minotaur and a Salamander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Don't forget about Bjorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 @ Jacques: Here is a list taking into account your advice. Vanguard Detachment #1 HQ Captain on Bike: Combi-Plasma, Power Sword Elites 2x Dreadnoughts: Missile Launchers, Twin Autocannon 2x Dreadnoughts: Missile Launchers, Twin Lascannons Ironclad Dreadnought: Assault Launchers, Chainfist, DCCW with Storm Bolter, Heavy Flamer Heavy 2x Thunderfire Cannons Flyer Stormraven Gunship: 2x Hurricane Bolters, Twin Assault Cannon, Twin Heavy Bolter Vanguard Detachment #2 HQ Tech-Marine on Bike: Combi-Flamer, Servo-Arm, Power Sword Elites 3x Venerable Dreadnoughts: Assault Cannons, DCCW with Heavy Flamers. While this list seems more diverse, with the stormraven and it's deopping the ironclad, as well as the shoot anywhere thunderfires, it does lower my dread count to 8. Do you think the increased advantage from the raven and cannons makes up for less Dreads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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