jaxom Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I used to default to powerfists for Company Commanders, Platoon Commanders, and Commissars because most things I was fighting had higher initiative. With striking last gone, and a minus to hit instead, power axes and mauls are more attractive. Does anyone have advice or stories to share about one versus the other? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Mauls are probably most applicable general weapon, since S5 lets you wound almost all infantry you come across on a 3+. Armor is variable and some stuff has invulnerable saves, so AP is not quite as valuable. However I do like axes as well (although they a point more expensive :P). My front line troops like engineers and grenadiers all have axes and mauls, most of my commissars and Sgts have power swords because that's what they came with. Power swords are nice enough too. At 4 points per model, it's like why not. I also am adding a lot more pistols than I used to. Plasma pistols are cheap and great for front-line units, and even hotshot laspistols are often a solid buy for 1 point. Essentially you should never ever ever have an army list that's like 1997/2000 like we used to, there is always something cheap you can add. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4825509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The -1 to hit on the power fists isn't great for Guard unless you can sprinkle them around in number. Otherwise boosts to strength to compensate for S3 are solid as most things are going to be tougher. Plasma pistols are almost mandatory now such is their utility and (finally) reduced cost. march10k 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4825867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Most of my characters are getting some upgrade. Plasma pistols are so useful now and so cheap! Power mauls are good as well. Since they are so cheap, you might as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4825923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob40k Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Where points are available, I arm mine with Plasma Pistols and Power Mauls, Plasma is just great and str5 is pretty solid on WS3+ characters! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4825932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatBrannigan Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Power swords all over the place for me now, mainly for aesthetics. Company Commanders will chop a marine or two whenever they're in combat which is well worth 4 points. Any of the 4 point weapons are well worth it really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4825949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Being constrained to my Mordian load outs its mainly chainswords, las & bolt pistols, the odd power sword and power fists on my Lord Commissars. PFs on LCs are amazing though your usually hitting and wounding on 3s with at least 3 attacks. For fun I making him my WL with +1A and have a priest nearby for an additional +1A. :D It is nice seeing a power sword only be 4pts for us these days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4825993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Yeah, since the massive points drop I've started running Power Swords and Plasma Pistols a bit lately. All the power weapons seem to have their place as well, and I can finally model Sergeants with cool weapons without having to start every game with, "my Sergeants and Characters just have Laspistol/Chainsword because I'm not spending a Plasma Gun's cost on a Plasma Pistol." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 The drastic reduction in cost for wargear has me putting it on characters again rather than running them with merely a laspistol and chainsword. I can definitely see the attraction of axes with the new rules, but aesthetically they are just not pleasing to me or fitting with my vision of my Guard. So power swords and power fists it is for me, plus for the first time ever I am bringing plasma pistols. Seems like in the fluff high ranking officers almost always have plasma pistols. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altasmurf Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I've been equiping my commanders, commissars, platoon commanders with power fists. Not all of them but a few. The high strength and - to save with the damage easily makes up for the -1 to hit. Sergeants tend to get bolter for my fire support squads, and a bolt pistol and chainsword for the front line squads. I will be modelling up a few sergeants with plasma pistol for some added fire power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Power fist and plasma pistol on THE commander. Chainsword and plasma pistols on most front line officers. Rear line officers come with what they come with. Does anyone actually use platoon leaders? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altasmurf Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Yep Platoon commanders are cheap order givers that can be placed near a squad about to be charged, allowing for heroic intervention. Suddenly you get 3 extra attacks that can't be targeted and it's no loss when he falls back. Super helpful i find. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Platoon Commanders are actually really good! I only realised that in my last game. They have 3 wounds and a 5++! I run them alongside my mobile (advancing) infantry squads with a power sword,while the Company Commander hangs back with the static gunline. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I guess I would find more use for them if they were HQ and not taking up elite slots since I already have to take 5 HQs for my list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die4Emprah Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) My gaming group seems to be primarily using PL, so it's dealer's choice for us, and I choose axes. The -1 to hit gets rather frustrating. I'd rather not bother trying to use a S6 fist to attempt to punch a Trukk. But I will take the S4 /-2AP to get a better chance at a parting blow on my way out. "Duty unto Death!" Plas Pistol, slam dunk. Edited July 20, 2017 by Die4Emprah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 My metal cadians have what they came with. The only thing that's new is that my power swords are powered up instead of being run as generic hand weapons. If I were building plastic guardsmen, I'd go with plasma pistols and power mauls. duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
major higgins Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Power fist on Tempestor prime and Death Rider's Sgt and Commander, power sword on all te remaining officers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4826461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Are there any Guard models with Power Maul options, though? I can't think of any that would be suitable for kitbashing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4827962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Skitarii have cool arc/shock mauls you can steal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4828044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I think there's a maul in the GSC Neophytes box. The power pick could also be used as an axe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4828135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 The stormtrooper kit comes with a power maul. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4828164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Technically its a Tempestus Command Rod, but yes, it could be a power maul in a pinch. Surely there is some third party bitz site that makes good mauls? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4828904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto von Bludd Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) I'm arming Iron Hand Straken with his iron hands, that guy is a monster in combat. But more on topic, after being shocked by the close combat carnage he caused in my last game, single iron-handedly slaughtering a unit of genestealers, a genestealer patriarch and some nurgle character after his guardsmen died to a man around him, I'm going to re arm all my sergeants with power mauls and run them with Straken and a priest. Everyone tries to get into melee with Guard anyway, so you might as well be ready for it. Edit: This is where you get power mauls that are properly scaled to Guardsmen: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/WARHAMMER-40K-BITS-ADEPTUS-MECHANICUS-SKITARII-ARC-MAUL-TASER-GOAD-POWERSWORD-/311417615564?hash=item4881efb4cc:g:CD0AAOSwA3dYkpYW Edited July 23, 2017 by Otto von Bludd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4829019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 The problem with Straken is your troops need to be Catachans to benefit. Whereas in previous codices GW actively encouraged us to model our own "counts-as" versions of special characters for our regiments they seem to want the opposite now. And it's seems gamist to call my red tuniced and pith helmeted troops or my feldgrau trench coat wearing troops "Catachans" RangerRob24 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4829839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I agree with this. I thought about painting a few differently and calling them Catachan, but it seems super lame to do so. I think I will insist on Catachan models, because the rules even say you can't replace [Regiment] with "Ultramarines" or "Tempestus" etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/336886-how-are-you-arming-characters-in-8th/#findComment-4829876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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