Codex wishes

[graysparrow]

...but there really is no telling what GW will come up with when do eventually get new models. 

 

This is very true, and in a way kind of scares me.  Don't want to start any debates, but some people have found some of the new marine options, models, and fluff to be rather...distasteful.   I'd hate to see something like that happen to our sisters, as the last thing we need is for some of our already small number to get driven away to other armies by a polarizing release. 

[Eddie Orlock]

... the last thing we need is for some of our already small number to get driven away to other armies by a polarizing release.

It's a concern. No doubt about it. But let's consider the alternative. The long, slow, slide into stagnation and inevitable obsolescence.

 

I've long seen posts around here bemoaning the uninspired state of the Battle Sister Brand within gamesworkshop's product lines. Specifically the marketed texts. Rules that get lamented as lazily implemented, or that scale poorly lending themselves to the implication that they're an allied force to be taken as auxiliaries to something else. Occasionally they get a book, but more commonly appear in another factions narrative, either way they're oft shown as dying in droves to emphasise the danger of the enemy.

 

This is unlikely to change with out a change. It's remarkable that they've persisted as long as they have on the qualities of their sculpts and fluff concepts, but there's been nothing substantially new since Codex: Witchunters.

 

New can be scary, but its absence can be scarier yet.

[dracpanzer]

New can be scary, but its absence can be scarier yet.

At least the rules are better for the units we do have than they have been in a long while, maybe ever?

[graysparrow]

 

New can be scary, but its absence can be scarier yet.

 

True!  Very good point.  Guess there's hope yet! :D

[Helvner]

in the codex im hoping repentia get some kind of buff, maybe as simple as giving them zealot.

[graysparrow]

With the way every army seems to be getting the 'chapter tactics' overhaul, I could see repentia getting that or something like it for Order of the Valorous Heart armies. They're supposed to love their repentia and have lots of 'em, so it'd fit.  :)

[Blurgh]

I really hope the Sororitas will get some more plastic models, and indeed a new codex in the not too distant future.

 

Apart from GW themselves including the sisters in the Gathering Storm, releasing Canoness Veridyan and Celestine, I've seen Black Library have included the sisters in a few novels over the last year, recently they have released quite a few short stories revolving around the sisters and of course the Sisters of Battle omnibus including a new short story. 

 

It seems like the sisters have gathered some momentum in the lore at least. :)

 

The Adepta Sororitas will not fade away anytime soon...

[CrusherJoe]

I hate to say it -- mainly because I'm going to sound like a whiny Chaos Space Marine player, but man would I love an updated version of Codex: Witchhunters. That was the apex of Sisterly codexes (codexen? codeci? whatever) but I have to admit the Index rules aren't bad...like, at all.

 

Now with some expansion and fluffing out (and a more scalable AoF system that doesn't involve a 4+ and birdhouse girls) and we'd be in business.

 

I fully expect none of it, though.

[Beams]

See, I like the Imagifiers. I feel like they prevent abuse and give other players a fair go against us. They keep us balanced

 

That said, I'm super disappointed they got rid of martyrdom completly, instead of making it fit 8th edition.

[Atrus]

^ See no reason it couldnt have been an auto faith that goes off on all units in 6" of slain model with that rule on sisters next turn....but then thats seemingly starting to get a bit soulbursty

[A.T.]

I hate to say it -- mainly because I'm going to sound like a whiny Chaos Space Marine player, but man would I love an updated version of Codex: Witchhunters. That was the apex of Sisterly codexes (codexen? codeci? whatever) but I have to admit the Index rules aren't bad...like, at all.

Any particular part of WH ?

 

The main difference between it and the index that sticks out to me (other than actually having wargear) was that faith got stronger with more units rather than weaker. But other than that all of the units are fundamentally the same - for sisters at least, the non-sisters units like cultists and flagellants really took a beating they haven't recovered from in 5th when they were squeezed down into henchmen.

[Atrus]

Flaggelants have recovered a fair bit. Granted they dont ignore armour lile they did back then, but for the most part theyre pretty close to their old WH days. More avg attacks. Movement not as good but at least theyre not wiping themselves out...which oddlt enough i did like.

[A.T.]

Flaggelants have recovered a fair bit. Granted they dont ignore armour lile they did back then, but for the most part theyre pretty close to their old WH days. More avg attacks. Movement not as good but at least theyre not wiping themselves out...which oddlt enough i did like.

I think for me it's more that the units have become quite generic - arcos were the big hammers, cultists the stealthy infiltrators, crusaders the skilled bodyguards, and repentia the anti-tank.

 

Now they are all much of a muchness.

[serjeffrey]

Count me in the minority, I guess, but I must have some more church units.

 

Give me some lame ass Conscripts/Cultists guys.

 

Give me Klovis the Redeemer - please. With Necromunda being relaunched, this might actually happen.

 

Maybe the Redemptionists gang along with the Redeemer will have model crossover.

 

Just let me use my Redeemer models (yes, I have both!) and my Redemptionists!

 

General rundown:

-HQ-level Priest/Confessor (not the weak-ass version from the WD dex)

-Conscript/Cultist Troops unit (stat/price them out in a way that BSS remain a compelling choice)

-Jump Pack for Canoness (why taketh???)

-Blessed Weapons

-Frag Cannons (you got 2 wishes left)

-Stormhawk/Stormraven/Stormtalon (no need for a custom flyer, just give us one of these)

 

Honestly, I'd like a Sisters specific Fortification like the Tau got with the Tidewall. A multi-part/multi-rule mix and match type of deal (again, like the Tau terrain). Maybe a fortified reliquary with several optional auxiliary emplacements. I dunno, just rambling now.

[Atrus]

Saw mention on another site of Imagifier being able to give different auras.

I think this would be a cool idea. Having the option of modeling custom imagifiers to represent different saints granting different auras.

Keep the one that allows the extra faith rolls. But maybe some that allow reroll failed saves of 1; invo buff or rerolls. Sounds pretty sweet.

Also be good to see the sacred banners make a comeback.

[Servant of Dante]

I like VH, but I don't play Repentia often, so if VH got rules that basically just said "play Repentia" I'd be a bit out in the cold :P

 

I'd still want to play VH, but I'd hope it'd be like IG, where each regiment got rules that benefit their entire army while fitting thematically, rather than just a buff to a single unit.

[Atrus]

I know its been touched on before, but i really want an option to have more saints (living or otherwise) even as an elite slot.

Make it customisable so that it can be a walking model like an imperial officer or priest or anything you want to model as and give what you want; as well as the option to give it wing and the whole angelic look.

 

I would find as many Celestine and other similar models as possible to have an angelic army. Would model and paint them up to look like MtG angels (Gisella, Avacyn, etc). Id be super excited to model a Saint Avacyn with spear :D

[Servant of Dante]

That sounds cool! The idea almost makes me want to look at doing historical rules for the 6 founding Saints, but 8th edition has proved rather uninspiring for homebrew rules for me as of yet. I still want to do my own 8E Sisters Codex at some point, have been rolling a few ideas around in my head a bit faster in the last couple days, so, one could say (too mix metaphors) that the idea is on the back burner rather than in stasis like it was before :P

 

I just want a special rule for each of the Major Orders and a stratagem for each, and for the VH rules to be beneficial even if you don’t play Repentia :D

 

Personally I think hand flamers are in a bad place, and Exorcists could use some work, but it’s not a bad thing that those are my most major complaints. The Sisters rules overall seem to be in a pretty nice place compared to before in my opinion

 

(And if I’m really wishlisting, something that actually makes Celestine more beneficial to Sisters armies than IG armies :P )

 

 

Keeper of the Annex @MtG angels

Edited October 19, 2017 by Servant of Dante

[A.T.]

I know its been touched on before, but i really want an option to have more saints (living or otherwise) even as an elite slot.

 

The Avenging Angels from the dawn of war game were essentially this.

[Drider]

I Just had a thought about our Martyrdom rule that vanished in the edition change, I'd be willing to bet that one of our things is going to be Martyrdom and it's probably going to be when ever a character dies we gain a command point.

[Atrus]

Makes sense. Though id much prefer it be the old one where every units autopasses AoF >:D though a balancing factor to tjat would be that all sources of AoF auto pass. Depends on what stratagems we get.

[Drider]

i think i'd rather have the CP than auto past my 2+ aof :P

It could be handy if it worked on imagifiers but i can't see it working on act of faith. it just seems like the most logical way to give us CP generation 

[Commander Dawnstar]

I Just had a thought about our Martyrdom rule that vanished in the edition change, I'd be willing to bet that one of our things is going to be Martyrdom and it's probably going to be when ever a character dies we gain a command point.

 

There's always the possibility that they borrow Soulburst from the Ynnari and allow a unit within a certain distance to use an immediate Act of Faith.

Edited October 22, 2017 by Commander Dawnstar

[Beams]

I'd really like getting CPs on martyrs. Would make taking the 15 pt Dialogus really worth it... Unless it needs to be the same [order] in which case, itd just be canonnesses and imagifers, so that would be fairly balanced. Edited October 22, 2017 by Beams

[Drider]

i think i'd like either the CPs or the soulburst idea. but if it's soul burst we'd need something else to generate CPs